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  1. #351
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    Syhrwyda Holskansawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    By that logic there is literally nothing besides gear high end content could reward you with that isn’t logically better suited to casual content because the only thing that high end can do to justify itself as more deserving of a reward than casual content is to reward something that makes high end content easier (ie gear). If a reward either benefits neither or benefits both it doesn’t work

    Glam weapons, mounts, adventurer plate stuff, titles, none of them can be justified under that logic because there is nothing that intrinsically links them to high end content

    Have to raise some doubt on that there, because a lot of the things you mention wouldn't be seen as basic character customization options. Nobody ever complained that only people who clear PotD can get "Necromancer" or that you need to clear ultimates for the Legend titles. Owning a certain mount (especially if the mount is e.g. the raid boss or otherwise obviously related to the raid itself!) or not is not as personal as the hairstyle on your character that makes your character look like "your character". Portrait frames.. well, I don't actually know how much people care about those, but again, they're hardly on the level of something that defines the perceived identity of your character in the game for you as much as a hairstyle does? So I get why people draw a line there.
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    Last edited by Eyrilona; 01-02-2025 at 11:43 PM.

  2. #352
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    Honestly, I never thought about this before but Im glad you bought this up. The casual to mid-core players can buy the hairstyle from the MB but it's not really a feel-good buy honestly. Like look at this patch, raiders got everything. They got new content, 2 mounts, a hairstyle, more gear(that can be used as glam and BiS), and a way to make lots of money. What did casual to mid-core players get? The ability to give raiders gil for a mount or hairstyle. It just feels like a rich get richer and poor get poorer situation where the favorited player base gets everything and the other player base only gets the ability to hand over their money to the favorites.
    That applies when Gil is around as a somewhat limited currency, but you can generate it en masse out of nowhere through roulettes, turn-ins and society quests.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    That applies when Gil is around as a somewhat limited currency, but you can generate it en masse out of nowhere through roulettes, turn-ins and society quests.
    Yes, I know you can make gil but that's not the point of my reply you replying to...All those ways to make gil isn't new or even that fun...I find doing roulette extremely boring to do bc you get the same old duns every single day, the turn-ins just feel like chores, and dailies are also so boring. The point is there is nothing new for casual and mid-core players to do right now. Yes, they can farm gil to buy the hairstyle, but the ways to do it have been in the game for years and all of it just boring and feels unrewarding to do. Meanwhile, raiders got everything so far the expac. I don't think ppl feel entitled, I think ppl just want something to do that is new and fun to have the chance to earn a reward. If they added a new way to earn gil this patch that was fun for casual and mid core players to do then getting the hairstyle from the MB wouldn't feel so bad IMO. But instead, they get nothing and have to hand over their gil over the raiders who got everything.
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  4. #354
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    The next cute hairstyle is going to be a rare drop from submarine ventures.
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    The next cute hairstyle is going to be a rare drop from submarine ventures.
    Description: "Unbeknownst to many, these glossy locks are actually a species of jellyfish."
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  6. #356
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    The next cute hairstyle is going to be a rare drop from submarine ventures.
    At least it would generally be available then in the long term.

    Prices on EU are now in the 20-22 mio range, constantly rising.

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    Last edited by Tint; 01-03-2025 at 12:44 AM.
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  7. #357
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    Description: "Unbeknownst to many, these glossy locks are actually a species of jellyfish."
    Can you image, hairstyles with bioluminescent glow highlights, dropping from sub ventures?

    GD would explode.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    At least it would generally be available then in the long term then.

    Prices on EU are now in the 20-22 mio range, constantly rising.

    Hmm, maybe I should buy a few and hold on to them.
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  9. #359
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    At least it would generally be available then in the long term.

    Prices on EU are now in the 20-22 mio range, constantly rising.

    This I think is very much expected behavior. I don't think it's indicative of the content already dying. I think it's indicative of how aggressive the First-Time bonus was. People were getting copious amounts of Bonus Demimateria, but now the newer player bonus is starting to dry up, so now the actual grind element is factored in. What once took 1-2 runs for people to get the hairstyle via Demiamteria will end up taking significantly more runs to obtain.

    People will now see how much of a grind this can actually turn out to be.
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  10. #360
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    This I think is very much expected behavior. I don't think it's indicative of the content already dying. I think it's indicative of how aggressive the First-Time bonus was. People were getting copious amounts of Bonus Demimateria, but now the newer player bonus is starting to dry up, so now the actual grind element is factored in. What once took 1-2 runs for people to get the hairstyle via Demiamteria will end up taking significantly more runs to obtain.

    People will now see how much of a grind this can actually turn out to be.
    Yeah...as someone who hasn't had the time to even prog the fight yet, Im not looking forward to how many clears it's going to take to even get the hairstyle. Assuming there are no first-time bonuses after my first clear and Im the only first-time clear in the group I clear with, it will talk 47 clears just to get enough Demiamteria 2s to buy the hair. If I want the tile mount as well that means another 75 clears... Honestly if anything the cost of these items needs to be lowered a bit to ease the grinding. Like don't get me wrong I don't mind grinding but grinding COD doesn't seem fun at all since you have 24 players every time you want to farm and you have to deal with wipes and mistake more often since getting 24 ppl to do mech perfect nearly every run is harder than the fight itself.
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