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  1. #231
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 50
    SE, take this as a lesson. Next time, put the hair in the cash shop for $5 and you'll barely hear a complaint.
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  2. #232
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    Aviatorhead's Avatar
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    Honey Slaughter
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    Excalibur
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    50mil gil for hair is ridiculous. I personally don't want the hair, but I can see why someone would be upset if their options are run this chaotic that they either can't run or have no interest in, or fork up enough money to buy a mansion and furnish it. (No, 50/25 mil gil is not the sort of cash a casual can accrue easily, not even by doing dailies lol)
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  3. #233
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviatorhead View Post
    50mil gil for hair is ridiculous. I personally don't want the hair, but I can see why someone would be upset if their options are run this chaotic that they either can't run or have no interest in, or fork up enough money to buy a mansion and furnish it. (No, 50/25 mil gil is not the sort of cash a casual can accrue easily, not even by doing dailies lol)
    Considering casual content generates the most money in this game saying that money Can’t be accrued easily by a casual is wrong, high end content is by and large a drain on people’s finances
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #234
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    Nabril's Avatar
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    Dorion Borstein
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    Halicarnassus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    The people who do the thing deserve the reward for the thing. All things should offer rewards. It's really that simple.
    The people who write the thing get to dictate what is a reward for the thing or to change that reward on a whim. It's that simple. Choice isn't yours.
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  5. #235
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    Aviatorhead's Avatar
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    Honey Slaughter
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    Excalibur
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Well what do you mean by casual content here? Because most players I know regardless of their playstyle, aren't walking around with 50mil to spare, and it would probably take a while to get that sort of money if they aren't spamming maps every day. Dailies won't get you that sort of cash any time soon.
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  6. #236
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    SE, take this as a lesson. Next time, put the hair in the cash shop for $5 and you'll barely hear a complaint.
    Sort of amazing they needed a lesson since this firestorm was completely predictable. It's also lucky more players don't read these boards. The conversations here are hardly likely to make more people try high-end raiding.
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  7. #237
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Considering casual content generates the most money in this game saying that money Can’t be accrued easily by a casual is wrong, high end content is by and large a drain on people’s finances
    Is that actually true? I genuinely don't know. There were raiders on Reddit reporting making 80 million+ within the first couple of days of CAR, but maybe that's not usually the case?
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  8. #238
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    BrokenFantasy's Avatar
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    Jona'tha Daavisi
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    "We aren't entitled, we just want this kind of reward with a low barrier that everyone could achieve while essentially afk (if it was mailed, we wouldn't mind), even though it's also available on the MB, but we can't be bothered with that either, we are paying customers after all". Yeah, it's entitlement.
    I feel like the problem some people here have, is that the word "entitlement" is used across the pond to shut down every legitimate demand for bettering society. Or when people even are legitimate entitled to certain things by law / contract. However, this is an MMORPG, and a significant appeal of that genre has always been that activities come with rewards, especially customization options. On the one hand, to have goals for players, on the other hand, to brag. I mean, that is why YOU want to have the rewards as well, right? To show them off. To present your character. You don't even understand how required such a reward structure is for a game to exist in the first place. There are other games that throw gear and customization and all that around for free, and they are all in the same corner of "dead MMOs", barely coasting by on life support with no real investment.
    Lazy strawman of what I said. Not sure if bait or something else lol
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  9. #239
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    BrokenFantasy's Avatar
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    Jona'tha Daavisi
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    It's not even difficult to make money - Hell, just doing roulettes to cap out the 450 tomestones/week brings a bit of cash, even more when you play roles that are in Need.
    Cash out the other tomes for materials/soil and you got a few hundred-thousands every few days alone on that.

    And that's before sending out retainers and gathering/processing mats with DoL/H jobs.
    Sounds boring as hell (just like roughly 50% of the so-called gameplay in this game).
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  10. #240
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Considering casual content generates the most money in this game saying that money Can’t be accrued easily by a casual is wrong, high end content is by and large a drain on people’s finances
    I don't understand this notion where raiders spend a lot of gil on food and pot is coming from...I used to be on Jenova like you and I raided all the time and never spent that much gil on anything for raiding. Shoot back in ShB I used to make food and pots for sale and I stopped bc the prices were set so low that it wasn't even worth the sale of them. Not to mention that those who are in statics tend not to buy anything bc the odds are they have at least one person in the static that can craft stuff for the team. Doing savage and ultmates does not drain that much gil for you lol Unless you potting every single pull and if you are that so dumb XD You only pot when you going for the clear.
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