Chaotic Alliance party finder toxicity

[ScoutUnit]

This post include my party so im responding.

We setup ilvl 730. looting only farm.
We was there today 10 hours in row..we did 20kills (we dont needed kick people, if someone leaved new joined - killed and again again..). Thats how farm party should be.
It tends to people didnt wanted to leave our group. If they must, then joined back later, because it was worth it and it was actualy FARM NOT MEME.

Meanwhile I obtained whisper from person who started this tread: very angry explained that how I can setup ilvl 730 because healers dont have 730 best in slot..
Im sorry, but who will teach you the fight..when HC players need theyr kills first to stay calm and actualy wanted start to help newcomers...?

Dude you can be sure the Light Chaotic Raid comunity know who you are and I am not the only one whom you whispered. Because you have absolutely no idea how this content works..

[Combat_Unit]

Making PF and wanting certain people isnt toxic, u simply want to play with people who did simillar content and have simillar mindset as u do. If u cleared savages and ultimate and geared up your character, there is nothing wrong if you want to raid with people who did the same, so there is nothing wrong with ilvl gate. If you do no mistake and want to play with people who do no mistakes, then you can make party with specification, you will kick those who fail. Nobody force you to join these groups. FFlogs are public website anyone can see, so if people actually look for people with certain fflogs, thats their own business too (you dont even need to use any 3rd party program to have your logs recorded there... PS players cant use these programs and still have logs recorded too...).

I have joined kill groups to help people, I have organized prog groups after I cleared to help my friends and also kill groups... I have organized a farm groups with no specification and also farm groups with ilvl set (never wanted their logs or kill proofs, but I wanted certain ilvl)... U know why? Because when I am in the mood, that I want help people and dont mind wipes, I join or make group for people who need help and wipe. When I want farm content and rly dont have time or mindset to be stuck at tower prog, I make a group with specification, that I will kick people who do mistake and specify ilvl to be sure they at least put enough effort to gear up the class they are joining with... and u know what? IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS, JOIN A GROUP WITH SPECIFICATION THAT FITS YOU. Stop spamming people with annoying messages, that they are gate keeping you and that 730 means ultimate weapons... I never been any ultimate and I am 730 on my healer, u are more toxic than people making these parties...

[Rueby]

You're not entitled to a spot in anyone's PF, don't like it? Don't join, or accept it and stop throwing a hissy fit about it.

I got ignored sending a tell with 40 clears and ilv726, I moved on, it is what it is. You realize you can make your own PF and have your own rules right?

You wonder where the helpers went? Because people treat KFF parties as 'prog for meeeeeeee'. It's because people lie about their prog points that people feel the need to gatekeep, I thought it was shitty, but now that I farmed it, I understand why it's happening. This shit is exhausting, been at it 15-17hrs everyday since the 24th and many people just want to be done.

[AvoSturmfaust]

You wanna know the funny thing about it? its not the HARDCORE RAIDER which locks people out of PF because of Dmg/Itemlevel or anything, its the CASUALS, because most hardcore player literally dont care about all that stuff in a random pf they dont care about itemlevel if you have enough to hit the needed itemlevel its totally fine, but another thread which trys to shit on hardcore player, stop the shit and look at you first in the mirror.

[HavokNim]

I'm the person that kicked you out. I told you its nothing personal.
There's nothing toxic about it. I set up PF post what I was looking for and what everyone else can expect from it.

Why I do this? Because people with 10 clears are more likely to be more consistent and have some good understanding of the mechanics and are less likely to fuck up and wipe the party causing everyone to lose 10 minutes. I want MY parties to go more smoothly and this method works better than just letting everyone in. If you want to let everyone IN or help other players get the clear make your own party with your own rules.

Want to blame someone blame Square Enix for making casual content braindead easy to the point the average player can't even do simple spreads, stacks and towers that are required in this new content. It's unfortunate that we have to resort to this sort of "walling" but if the average player got challenged more often this wouldn't be an issue.

[St0rmy]

Do you really need to make multiple forum posts about how you don't like Chaotic A-raids?

[Collin_Sky]

You wanna know the funny thing about it? its not the HARDCORE RAIDER which locks people out of PF because of Dmg/Itemlevel or anything, its the CASUALS, because most hardcore player literally dont care about all that stuff in a random pf they dont care about itemlevel if you have enough to hit the needed itemlevel its totally fine, but another thread which trys to shit on hardcore player, stop the shit and look at you first in the mirror.

People like this are incapable of self reflection.

[TalonBlades]

To be fair. This content, will divide people, it will show toxic traits, and it will show peoples true knowledge and understanding of the job they play, the ranges they have, and managing personal timers for mechanics. A very large part of this fight is personal responibility, and you failing, impacts others and the ability to succeed.

Sadly the early strats formed, do show how high % of players are not ready, nor understand the job, or even likely swapped to fill a party, to get carried on what they do not know or understand.
They also do not take into consideration, console or controller users, and have specific healers not performing, or doing whay they should be or utilising the kit they have. They would rather only heal 3 people, then move to heal the 4th, which is a member of the party. They would rather shunt personal responsibility and have another party spot heal 1, for a total of 9 within tange, then them do what they should be doing to begin with, and healing a 4th.

I am one to speak forwards, it has brought the worst of even myself back out, from what I have been witnessing. It has caused work to be undone, with myself, and work with my mental state to pull me back into the void has created.

This type of content in the future will either be made easier or people will just form private servers to communicate and it will gate keep people wanting to do it, as helpers will become few and far between, and it will have people just focusing on bonus loot to get all they need, and work betweem them to distribute loot, so nobody misses out on prime rewards, and they move on from it altogether.

I have the patience to help others, and I will stick with learning groups till the are ready to clear, or clear, it is the mentality and expectation, for which you join for.

Joining what is supposed clear groups, and watching people repeatedly fail, what should be known, then thoae trying to rectify others mistakes, then make mistakes and get flamed for attempting rectification from failure. Not speaking up if it was a slip up, or they need more help to understand, makes it infuriating and wastes peoples time, and people can and will help if you speak up and just ask and explain the situation.

[VictorSpoils]

Update your lexicon

[ExiaKuromonji]

The content was designed to get casual/midcore players into harder stuff. Unfortunately, what Yoshi P doesn't understand is it will be the hardcore players that will keep the players not used to this kind of content out of it.

No it wasn't. It was advertised as savage difficulty.