Old Crow's Big Timeline Discussion, CE 2024

[unlimitedBLACK]

This is less about trying to identify the events than it is about taking the events that we KNOW and using the frame of references we have for them to find out the numbers. The discrepancy about how long it took for the Miqo'te to return to Eorzea is an example of how two pieces of information in the same source offer two incompatible continuities, because if they were gone for less than two thousand years it means one thing, but if the time difference between the rise of Allag and the 5UC is MORE than 2500 years, then one of these two bits of information is wrong.

And again, I can appreciate that because a lot of numbers are provided in text as "roughly this many" or "nearly this many" or "IMPRISONED FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS, BANISHED FROM MY OWN HOMELAND" that finding something exact isn't going to be possible, but there are a LOT of numbers to talk about here.

Specific to the quote you mentioned about Lewphon, keep in mind that depending on when exactly you're looking into the 5AE, there's anywhere from three to thirteen city-states active at any one point in time. Attempting to rectify their individual calendars together, likely through a variety of historiographic methods, is kinda candy to historians, of COURSE they'd try to do that.

[Cleretic]

Specific to the quote you mentioned about Lewphon, keep in mind that depending on when exactly you're looking into the 5AE, there's anywhere from three to thirteen city-states active at any one point in time. Attempting to rectify their individual calendars together, likely through a variety of historiographic methods, is kinda candy to historians, of COURSE they'd try to do that.

Absolutely, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just something we should recognize as an element; that these dates will be deliberately artificial and impersonal rather than organic and defined by the people affected. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we run into a 'Jesus was born about 5BC' problem and the changeover dates don't actually line up with the events that they were supposedly set for.