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    Based on several already existing threads on this same forum, it also manages to simultaneously be the most tonedeaf and worst content this game has ever had, so this OP post sounds a lot like a deliberately vague flamebait soundbite by someone who just likes to rile people up. If CAR is really the best thing since ever, at least argue your case for why you think so in more than two lines so that the conversation won't immediately derail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    Based on several already existing threads on this same forum, it also manages to simultaneously be the most tonedeaf and worst content this game has ever had, so this OP post sounds a lot like a deliberately vague flamebait soundbite by someone who just likes to rile people up. If CAR is really the best thing since ever, at least argue your case for why you think so in more than two lines so that the conversation won't immediately derail?
    Honestly, I don't think most people find the content itself to be tone-deaf, just the fact of the cosmetic reward being from it.. Which it sort of is, especially with something that actually is a character customization option, in as game already thoroughly lacking in it.

    I am concerned about the shelf life, and many are too, which in turn makes them concerned about the cosmetic reward in the long-term.

    I think what they need to do is introduce a second tier of difficulty to Chaotic raids. Have one with lower difficulty which would help the issue of the reward structure trying to funnel players into higher difficulty without really being prepared enough to do so.. That way if they want to get the cosmetic reward, then they can do additional farming of the normal/entry difficulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    Based on several already existing threads on this same forum, it also manages to simultaneously be the most tonedeaf and worst content this game has ever had, so this OP post sounds a lot like a deliberately vague flamebait soundbite by someone who just likes to rile people up. If CAR is really the best thing since ever, at least argue your case for why you think so in more than two lines so that the conversation won't immediately derail?
    Dang, almost like the playerbase isn't some homogenic monolith and features humans from all walks of life with different values and preferences.

    Based on the already existing threads on this same forum, Shatter is also the worst PvP map to ever have existed in the history of PvP maps. And all these opinions are just that, worthless opinions, because Shatter is the best map currently in the game. However, the general player level simply does not allow for the matches to actually reach the potential they could have, so matches become an absolute pain, even when winning. The same is true for this chaotic raid. It's hard content, it requires a high skill level with regards to consistently solve mechanics (95% and up, not the 75% many people even in savage raids think are okay). Of course the experience will be miserable for everyone involved if the community features lots of people who are okay with making the experience miserable for everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    Dang, almost like the playerbase isn't some homogenic monolith and features humans from all walks of life with different values and preferences.

    Based on the already existing threads on this same forum, Shatter is also the worst PvP map to ever have existed in the history of PvP maps. And all these opinions are just that, worthless opinions, because Shatter is the best map currently in the game. However, the general player level simply does not allow for the matches to actually reach the potential they could have, so matches become an absolute pain, even when winning. The same is true for this chaotic raid. It's hard content, it requires a high skill level with regards to consistently solve mechanics (95% and up, not the 75% many people even in savage raids think are okay). Of course the experience will be miserable for everyone involved if the community features lots of people who are okay with making the experience miserable for everyone else.
    Can you explain to me how Shatter being the best map in the game is objectively true, rather than simply being your opinion. I ask partly because it's an opinion rejected by the majority of FL players. I understand that you think they (and nearly everyone else who plays the game) is a complete idiot and/or suffering from video game addiction, but at some level a gaming company does need to cater to its customers, however dumb you think they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Can you explain to me how Shatter being the best map in the game is objectively true, rather than simply being your opinion. I ask partly because it's an opinion rejected by the majority of FL players. I understand that you think they (and nearly everyone else who plays the game) is a complete idiot and/or suffering from video game addiction, but at some level a gaming company does need to cater to its customers, however dumb you think they are.
    Can't, you have me on ignore, remember? After the last time you embarrassed yourself in the PvP forums with your "rEsIsTaNcE" shtick and defending people who throw the game because another group had premades. Oh, that's right, you switched your tune recently, because all the anti-premade rhetoric didn't get you enough validation and updoots.
    I mean, next time you are there (if you actually now queue for it, last time I remember you avoid it, so why do you even care if the map is good or not?), you could listen to the commanders present. Maybe even the one with the strategic callouts, with stuff like "ambush yellow by going over the bridge and cutting off their reinforcements". You know, all the stuff you admit you never do, because you actively ignore anyone doing any callout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    Can't, you have me on ignore, remember?
    Allen, honey, why would I ever put you on ignore? Your contributions to this forum are truly unique. The combination of vitriolic abuse, unshakeable conviction that you are never wrong, and being oblivious to the fact that everyone is laughing at you, is pure gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Allen, honey, why would I ever put you on ignore? Your contributions to this forum are truly unique. The combination of vitriolic abuse, unshakeable conviction that you are never wrong, and being oblivious to the fact that everyone is laughing at you, is pure gold.
    So just the Lala with the most La.
    It's nice to see our role models getting the respect they deserve. Lalas are growing weak IMHO.

    #MakeUldahGreatAgain!
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 12-29-2024 at 06:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
    Can't, you have me on ignore, remember? After the last time you embarrassed yourself in the PvP forums with your "rEsIsTaNcE" shtick and defending people who throw the game because another group had premades. Oh, that's right, you switched your tune recently, because all the anti-premade rhetoric didn't get you enough validation and updoots.
    I mean, next time you are there (if you actually now queue for it, last time I remember you avoid it, so why do you even care if the map is good or not?), you could listen to the commanders present. Maybe even the one with the strategic callouts, with stuff like "ambush yellow by going over the bridge and cutting off their reinforcements". You know, all the stuff you admit you never do, because you actively ignore anyone doing any callout.
    Great way to dodge the question of how your opinion is fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    Based on several already existing threads on this same forum, it also manages to simultaneously be the most tonedeaf and worst content this game has ever had, so this OP post sounds a lot like a deliberately vague flamebait soundbite by someone who just likes to rile people up. If CAR is really the best thing since ever, at least argue your case for why you think so in more than two lines so that the conversation won't immediately derail?
    Cause its fun and its a unique form of content not often explored by the game so I enjoy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    You're already able to successfully farm the Chaotic Raid...?
    yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Cause its fun and its a unique form of content not often explored by the game so I enjoy it.



    yeah
    Your PF rngesus must like you, or you have a 24 person static?
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