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  1. #3931
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Me: *on DRK, is running to the next pack in the 95 dungeon after the second boss and upwards toward the ramp*
    AST in my party: *took serious issue with that, Rescues me, stating there's nothing ahead*

    Yes, yes there is something ahead. It's bright and shiny and I will not be denied that shiny sight at the wall. Hamster will have her sight at the wall!
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  2. #3932
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    VeyaAkemi's Avatar
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    Veya Akemi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    This, as a healer main who also tops enmity list unreasonably often, I consider to be a mindset issue. For me it's an achievement to be best DPS and often when I do play a DPS job I give a commendation to someone who generates more aggro than me. It makes for a happier time, doesn't mean I condone people being that bad at their jobs but it's one of those laugh or cry (or be mildly annoyed) things and I choose to laugh.
    Oh, do note that I am being playful about this, I used an oxymoron like "unreasonably mildly annoyed" to play it up, does it annoy me? I mean yeah, but it isn't like anything that is going to ruin my day, I just roll eyes and move on, I have plenty of "It is what it is" in the tank to handle this stuff, I can also see that I was easily the best-geared DPS in the party just from looking at HP values so that's probably a huge contributor to me being ahead, and the VPR did LB3 properly when it was clear we didn't need a Healer LB crutch, and I consider that a win enough in my book.
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  3. #3933
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    Gwenkatsu Furokane
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It finally happened to me.



    Nothing special, just a leveling roulette in Halatali - rogue always stands in the distance, just throwing their daggers at trash and the first boss. I think I worded my advice properly, but obviously they were not in the mood to improve their game. The group decided to part ways soon after (exactly 5 minutes after dungeon start )

    I read alot about those clowns, but never met one myself.
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  4. #3934
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    So the other day I replaced a healer who wouldn't heal on Ultima weapon normal. When I came in, the whole damn party had the echo buff, and I was an 8 minute replacement. I honestly don't know if the healer had left because the group wouldn't let them get away with being a green dps for fast queue times or if they were just genuinely incompetent, but once I was in there as SCH we cleared it quickly.

    Yesterday I might have ran into said healer while I had unlocked PCT on an alt. Ultima weapon normal, get a WHM in full ascension gear for being level 90, barrier drops and first raidwide goes out...the whm doesn't heal it, instead chooses to continue to dps. I had side-eyed them as normally a Medica II would easily take care of everyone while you continue to dps.

    Partway through this fight, the tank is sitting on two-digit hp before they FINALLY get a heal while the whm goes back to dpsing. Next two titan slams we're all sitting at very low health, and during Titan to Garuda transition we almost die...except for the WHM, whom is as healthy as an old bird. Somehow during Garuda phase the tank dies, and the DNC in our group has aggro. WHM deigns to raise the tank, FINALLY decides to heal the group, and goes back to dpsing. The poor PLD tank managed to scrape through while both me and the DNC are trying our best to make sure the tank can heal between transitions.

    Phase 2 starts, raidwides go out, and we don't get any healing. I pop a pot to get my hp back up so I can continue to at least dps, more raidwides go out, and eventually the tank dies again from no healing. DNC is next and aggro and unfortunately they're stuck with the tankbuster. The WHM in question continues to sit there and dps while taking a moment to contemplate what was happening, and DNC dies to the tankbuster. Meanwhile the tank is finally getting another raise, and I have aggro. Unfortunately I cannot sustain myself with a singular pot, and I die to autos because I didn't get any healing. Tank gets back up the second the WHM gets aggro and they're now panic healing themselves and the PLD. DNC gets a raise while I remain on the floor until Ultima starts casting Ultima. Maybe 50% in I finally get raised, and we were just 5 seconds away from having a complete wipe.

    I gave my comm to the dancer, I felt bad for the PLD for having to deal with that, and glared angrily at the WHM for wanting fast queues and neglecting their job. Healing ain't hard yo.
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  5. #3935
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    fuululu's Avatar
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    Sofia Coel
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 78
    I learned that a summoner can keep a party alive through Copperbell Mines.

    So we load into the dungeon and we're ready to go, wait for the CNJ to finish their cutscene and progress through the dungeon as usual. Except the CNJ doesn't move. And continues to not move. Nothing worrisome maybe they just got up real quick to get something, stuff happens. Then five minutes went by and still nothing. I begin to wonder who hits 'commence' on the DF window and then just leaves their PC but whatever, it's the leveling roulette, I got time.

    Eventually the tank starts creeping further into the dungeon and pulls the first couple trash mobs probably to see if they can handle doing it by themselves. I then had the silly realization that summoners for some reason STILL HAVE PHYSICK. So we get the idea to try creeping through the dungeon one trash pull at a time while I kept the team up with my piddly 400 potency heal.

    We get to the first boss and I'm like 'oh no' but it turns out I could still keep the team up completely full if I managed it right.

    BTW the CNJ still hasn't said anything or moved from the starting zone.

    So we finish the boss and are about to proceed to the next area when I swing my camera around and the CNJ is standing behind me. I'm a little spooked but YAY maybe this means a normal dungeon run now!

    CNJ proceeds to not move again from that new location even as we progress through the dungeon to the slime boss. Again, I'm able to keep the team healed and handle DPS moderately well! BTW I've NEVER healed in a dungeon before, I'm a DPS main!

    And again, somehow the CNJ appears in the zone when I'm not looking. So I finally asked in the chat if they're running there or am I losing my mind and they've discovered apparition. Then the CNJ moves! They run towards the team, wait for the wall to go down, and then start RUNNING THROUGH THE REST OF THE DUNGEON HEAD LONG PULLING EVERY SINGLE TRASH MOB UNTIL THEY GET TO THE FINAL BOSS. To which the promptly get blasted into the ground by the 16 coblyns, trolls, and spriggans and then immediately use return to get to the start of the dungeon.

    Needless to say, the rest of us were very shocked. I was completely unnerved. They then spouted some nonsense about 'gigi's' in the chat while we waited to see if they'd come back to the end boss.

    Finally they arrive and we complete the end boss with them behaving as a normal CNJ is expected to. For some reason, no reason actually, they used rescue on me to yank me across the fight zone, then proceeded to just stare at me as the boss was finished and we were able to escape leave. At this point I was convinced they were some sort of bot and was wholly unnerved by the whole thing, asked them jokingly to 'blink if you're okay' to which they responded with 'blink is a spell' and I decided I was outta there.

    Maybe I'll try a healing class... it was kinda fun.
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  6. #3936
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    Ascended_Demon's Avatar
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    Roeganstyr Niufyrsyn
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    Coeurl
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Me: *on DRK, is running to the next pack in the 95 dungeon after the second boss and upwards toward the ramp*
    AST in my party: *took serious issue with that, Rescues me, stating there's nothing ahead*

    Yes, yes there is something ahead. It's bright and shiny and I will not be denied that shiny sight at the wall. Hamster will have her sight at the wall!
    To be fair to that AST (I don't know the exact circumstances this might not apply to you but I've seen it happen all the same) there are some tanks who after having pulled all the enemies and their astro will have placed their Earthly Star, and said tank just...pulls the enemies out of the star for no reason so they can go to the roadblock. It's kinda...facepalm-worthy, I guess?
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  7. #3937
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended_Demon View Post
    To be fair to that AST (I don't know the exact circumstances this might not apply to you but I've seen it happen all the same) there are some tanks who after having pulled all the enemies and their astro will have placed their Earthly Star, and said tank just...pulls the enemies out of the star for no reason so they can go to the roadblock. It's kinda...facepalm-worthy, I guess?
    They had popped their star right as the second boss had died, so there wouldn't have been enough cooldown time to place a new one at the singular pack. I remember because I was running for the boss room exit when I saw the glitter explosion and was like 'why'd you use your star when the boss was about to die?' and didn't think much of it until I got Rescued. Granted throughout the dungeon they were only using it maybe once a pack or less. Granted the only serious healing they did for me was spamming Aspected Benefic, and the occasional Benefic II and mostly ignoring the rest of their kit, but keeping me alive long enough to prevent me from proccing Living Dead.

    I will point out that most tanks will keep pulling until they hit a wall, as is standard practice in most dungeon pulls. Once the tank parks that's the best time to drop your floor aoe stuff as trash packs in current content take time to put down. Putting aoes down when the tank is still pulling is wasted resources/lost dps, unless you're a single-puller.

    It's hard for me to take a healer seriously when you've got so much at your disposal in a 95 dungeon and yet only touch maybe 1/4 of your kit for most of it. I wouldn't have had a personal laugh at the AST's expense had they not Rescued me before the ramp. I can attest it to an angry yet lazy mother not wanting their child to run off despite being on a harness.
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  8. #3938
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    Mierin L'eronaile
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    I was on M4N, look over the party list, and...



    This always makes me unreasonably mildly annoyed to be at the top of the DPS enmity list, I have the lowest personal damage in the game, I make one of you deal 10% more damage just by existing, what's the excuse!
    Whenever I'm DPS and a DNC is higher on the Enmity list than me (usually when I'm BRD, so not *that* big of a surprise), it really pisses me off and makes me work harder. In the end, I have to give them the comm because apparently they were a damn good DNC.
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  9. #3939
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    Roeganstyr Niufyrsyn
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    They had popped their star right as the second boss had died, so there wouldn't have been enough cooldown time to place a new one at the singular pack. I remember because I was running for the boss room exit when I saw the glitter explosion and was like 'why'd you use your star when the boss was about to die?' and didn't think much of it until I got Rescued. Granted throughout the dungeon they were only using it maybe once a pack or less. Granted the only serious healing they did for me was spamming Aspected Benefic, and the occasional Benefic II and mostly ignoring the rest of their kit, but keeping me alive long enough to prevent me from proccing Living Dead.

    I will point out that most tanks will keep pulling until they hit a wall, as is standard practice in most dungeon pulls. Once the tank parks that's the best time to drop your floor aoe stuff as trash packs in current content take time to put down. Putting aoes down when the tank is still pulling is wasted resources/lost dps, unless you're a single-puller.

    It's hard for me to take a healer seriously when you've got so much at your disposal in a 95 dungeon and yet only touch maybe 1/4 of your kit for most of it. I wouldn't have had a personal laugh at the AST's expense had they not Rescued me before the ramp. I can attest it to an angry yet lazy mother not wanting their child to run off despite being on a harness.
    Oh yikes, honestly I'm kind of surprised they were even using Earthly Star if the only healing they were really doing was Aspected Benefic and Benefic II, what a waste. Funny how they had Rescue on their hotbar too.

    Maybe the pulling to roadblocks is more a preference thing because I can see the reason why one would want to but I can also see benefit to staying where the last pulled pack was. There tends to be less space right by the roadblocks which can be good for clustering enemies together, but it could make it more claustrophobic and dodging enemy AoEs annoying. But I feel you, I feel you, gotta hamster run it.
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  10. #3940
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Been a while since the last time I contributed vented anything here so I thought about sharing a rather jarring run of The Skydeep Cenote from minutes ago. Zoned in via roulette as a DRK, my party consists of SCH, RPR, and PCT. No first timer.

    First pull into the run and I could already tell the duty was going to take a while. Why? The SCH spends the entire time doing nothing but waiting until I lose about 30%'ish health before start incessantly casting Physucks and/or Adloquium. Other healing buttons aside those two? A rarity. Biolysis? Unheard of, except bosses. Art of War II? Cast less than 5 times in total across entire length of the duty. Broil IV? Maybe when they felt like to in bosses... which wasn't much. What about spamming Ruin IIs? They'd do that at least right? Hahahahahno, lol.

    Suffice to say, I grew grumpy & suspicious over time. I tested the waters by eating trash pulls AoEs occasionally just to see if that was a bot I was dealing with. Fast forward to last trash pull before 3rd boss, I dropped the big gun by pulling everything without pressing any cooldowns---no, not even TBN. Now obviously, this antic killed me. When I ate dirt, suddenly all sort random sparkly stuffs comes out from the SCH... (oh so they're probably not a bot at all! Good to know!), a sign of them panicking probably. None of the DPSes died as I was raised in time to re-aggro everything. Still, the pull remainder took just enough time for my weakness debuff to clear before we ride the electrope slab to reach the 3rd boss.

    Pray (not) tell me dear SCH, what was the deal with that? If a Cure I/Benefic I/Physuck/Diagnosis Mage could spam those and kept me alive in these wall pulls as I've experienced plenty of times in the past, then what were you doing back there...? You already barely press anything that doesn't push HP bar to the right... but that's not even the part I'm most grumpy about. Did you even tried...? At least those Cure I/Benefic I/Physuck/Diagnosis Mage tried irrespective to their poor button choices... but you, what were you doing in this lv95 dungeon...? :/

    End rant. /playdead

    EDIT: Oh yeah, that entire run took about 24m to clear.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 12-28-2024 at 08:43 AM.

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