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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    Just read again your prior responde about how you think WHM is a waste of party slot and will understand why you were toxic.

    It's OK you feel underpowered with WHM. But at least you have to assume that it's because your lack of affinity with WHM or because you just don't know how to play it, not because it's a "waste of party slot".

    And I don't know you've noticed, but all healers are bad right now. All of them, not just WHM. All healers are underpowered and made futile in most contents. All healers can be switched out for a WAR, PLD, RDM or even MNK depending on the content.

    And there IS a reason players who mains any healer, not just WHM, made this strike to begin with. There IS a reason healer mains is angry with S-E.
    I said it’s a waste of a party slot because it doesn’t have any sort of niche or advantage the other healers don’t do better in the last 7 years, not because I’m being personally vindictive against WHM, it’s not toxic to say that WHM is in a position where it feels like a waste because every other healer is just out and out better than it. Being easy isn’t a niche because SGE also fits into that and isn’t completely devoid of a use case. This is nothing to do with my personal experiences playing on WHM which I can sum up with it being weak, this isn’t me not knowing how to play WHM, this is WHM not having a gameplay niche the game takes advantage of

    You don’t need to preach to me about the nature of the strike, scroll back to page 1, I have a post on there, I’ve been here since day 1, I know the state of healers in the wider game, I’m discussing WHM’s position relative to the other healers, against the wider jobs the only healer that still retains a useful niche is SCH because of its mitigation but SCH having a chokehold on the meta is nothing new
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I said it’s a waste of a party slot because it doesn’t have any sort of niche
    Here you're being straight up toxic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    or advantage the other healers don’t do better in the last 7 years,
    At least on damage, WHM does it better than SCH and SGE, according to "that" website. And even AST needs to count the damage given to other players via buffs for its numbers be higher than WHM. AST is dead last if those buffs is not counted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    not because I’m being personally vindictive against WHM,
    Its because you don't know anything about WHM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    it’s not toxic to say that WHM is in a position where it feels like a waste because every other healer is just out and out better than it.
    And that's on you. Sorry. But that's a common failure that META sheeps like to do. Specially those who likes to be toxic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Being easy isn’t a niche because SGE also fits into that and isn’t completely devoid of a use case. This is nothing to do with my personal experiences playing on WHM which I can sum up with it being weak, this isn’t me not knowing how to play WHM, this is WHM not having a gameplay niche the game takes advantage of
    Requiring less planning is pretty valuable to chaotic situations. Such as PUGs, blind prog, trap parties, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You don’t need to preach to me about the nature of the strike, scroll back to page 1, I have a post on there, I’ve been here since day 1, I know the state of healers in the wider game, I’m discussing WHM’s position relative to the other healers, against the wider jobs the only healer that still retains a useful niche is SCH because of its mitigation but SCH having a chokehold on the meta is nothing new
    I think I need to remember you that this is a healer strike, not WHM strike. And I think I need to remember you that all healers are more or less homogenized, without many differences.

    Do you think you're useless against a raidwide that takes ~100% HP when playing WHM, even knowing that there will be that attack? While you cry on your uselessness, I just save Temperance and Divine Caress for that. And after that raidwide, I can just PI > Rapture > Medica 3 to top off party. As WHM.

    I could use more options to do raid-wide mitigation? Definitely yes. The options I do have is too few? Yes. I'm left out praying someone else would mitigate for me at some raidwide I know that it'll come? Hell NO. But I'll have to plan carefully.

    FYI:

    Temperance - Increases healing magic potency by 20%, while reducing damage taken by self and all party members within a radius of 50 yalms by 10%.

    Divine Caress - Creates a barrier around self and all party members near you that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 400 potency.

    There. An AoE shield AND a mit on WHM. It's not good, CD is way too big (and shield diration is too low). But you can actually save a run where there is a raid-wide with 100% damage.
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    Last edited by miraidensetsu; 12-28-2024 at 09:08 AM.