I can hear Lallafel under the ground, whole cities of them

[ReynTime]

I wonder how much sub money these bots are paying the game. I mean they’ve always got so many characters stacked together the surely must have at least 2-3 accounts, right? Is that how it works?

Maybe SE refuses to do anything about them because of the potential revenue loss lol

Someone will quote you and say they don't, but that's incorrect. They do. In fact even paying for multiple accounts is nothing for them since they make a lot more money back from selling gil. Those accounts don't get banned faster than they can trade or farm.
This is one of the reasons why some players online have a conspiracy theory that SE wouldn't completely cull the botters/farmers even if they wanted to. They like the sub money. So you're not far off.

However at least until a while ago a lot of the farmer accounts (not the traders) would have chargeback, which led to the big list of throwaways SE is always bragging about ever so often. So not all of them are actually giving them money.

[Roehann]

I have reported them in Mor Dhona, they pop out of the ground, kill everything and then disappear only to do it again and again.. I recorded about a hour of them doing it over and over again, with their names, etc and reported them without a trace.. some time later I was in that area again, and they were still at it.. SE don't want to ban the bots, the bots are giving them money in subs... If SE REALLY wanted to do something about it they could, with the pictures, videos and reports they get from everyone that cares about it, they would have enough to ban them.

It's sad to see other games take botting more seriously than SE.. I guess SE is more concerned about the money than the bots... :/

[Kuroka]

I just dont get why the server lets em do this? is some "if Z Axis is below x meter, kill player" check really that hard?

[ArchlordPie]

I just dont get why the server lets em do this? is some "if Z Axis is below x meter, kill player" check really that hard?

Pretty sure the Z axis didn't actually exist in a lot of ARR zones until recently. Kind of hard to implement a check for a variable that isn't in the game in the first place.

That being said, WoW can and will automatically disconnect you for existing under the map. I found out because I found a literal square hole in the ground in the spooky BFA version of Vale of Eternal Blossoms a couple years back. Flew right in there while mounted thinking "wow blizzard's QA team must suck if they left this thing in, let's go exploring", and immediately got sent to the login screen.

Nowadays... yeah. SE needs to step it up.

[Kes13a]

I just dont get why the server lets em do this? is some "if Z Axis is below x meter, kill player" check really that hard?

come on, be real here. if they did that, imagine the STRESS on those poor players! SE is proud of their stress free play style.... soon it can even be player free.

[Rueby]

Asahi is that you

[Reimmi]

This title sounds like someone fighting their inner demons lol

[Doomed_Raven]

Pretty sure the Z axis didn't actually exist in a lot of ARR zones until recently. Kind of hard to implement a check for a variable that isn't in the game in the first place.

That being said, WoW can and will automatically disconnect you for existing under the map. I found out because I found a literal square hole in the ground in the spooky BFA version of Vale of Eternal Blossoms a couple years back. Flew right in there while mounted thinking "wow blizzard's QA team must suck if they left this thing in, let's go exploring", and immediately got sent to the login screen.

Nowadays... yeah. SE needs to step it up.

Yesterday I saw a column on Lalafell's go underground at mother Miounne's reception desk in Gridania. It was funny because I stood right behind one in first person and locked onto them, and the arrow showed they went quite far down then teleported (though I guess that building has 2 floors). WoW sounds like they have the right idea in disallowing players under the terrain, and from what I've seen of the maps in FFXIV, they are well made/air tight, I've never found anywhere glitchy or holes in terrain.

The amount of these bots is honestly ridiculous, it seems SE have no countermeasure. Maybe as some suggested SE make some money from bot subscriptions and don't really want them to go way.

[Doomed_Raven]

This title sounds like someone fighting their inner demons lol

Yes! small, popoto sized inner demons haha