I want a pictostrike

[Basteala]

Is it really such a surprise that certain groups would want meta comps?
seems like a crutch if anything

idk what else to say, I haven't seen much of the behavior mentioned in PF myself unless it's just a FRU thing since I don't think I can see groups for that

It's not a surprise but the balance of PCT vs BLM is unforgivable. PCT does more damage, has more utility, and is easier to play. I understand SE wants people to play the new classes, but this borders on negligent.

Hot take, BLM now is in a worse place than friggin Machinist. The job some people considered trolling to take on Savage progression in DT.

I'd rather have my 'overpowered' PCT with their unique downtime options than to sterilize them like the rest of the roster, thanks. WAR's BW were, and still inconceivably powerful for a tool of its caliber, yet many turns silent because they love their overpowered unga bunga buttons(????). I hope more and more people silently enjoy their overpowered splatoon mage too and maybe enforce more and more class lockout, so SE will finally spend a dime to foresee their jobs for once.

Meta slaves are one of the worst (not directed to OP).

That's nice but some of us want to not feel handicapped because we don't want to play the art major.

[Supersnow845]

It's not a surprise but the balance of PCT vs BLM is unforgivable. PCT does more damage, has more utility, and is easier to play. I understand SE wants people to play the new classes, but this borders on negligent.

Hot take, BLM now is in a worse place than friggin Machinist. The job some people considered trolling to take on Savage progression in DT.



That's nice but some of us want to not feel handicapped because we don't want to play the art major.

The only fight in the same where you are the legit potentially making it harder on yourself to not take is FRU and that’s because of the motif design

If your caster or melee are blaming a lack of PCT for savage or extreme damage then there is many other things you should be looking at first

[Basteala]

The only fight in the same where you are the legit potentially making it harder on yourself to not take is FRU and that’s because of the motif design

If your caster or melee are blaming a lack of PCT for savage or extreme damage then there is many other things you should be looking at first

Oh 100%, but let's be real, that's not how most raids work. PCT is--at the end of the day--topping numbers, and those numbers are what people are going to look at. Someone could be a 99th percentile black mage, and most people will still take the PCT for party even if they gray parse. I know it. You know it. This happened to WAR and PLD last expansion during P8S. And that was over tank DPS.

Also as a class who has to put in more effort for my damage and has no utility, I expect my damage to be better than a class that has offensive utility and is easier to play--at least in the same role as me. Sorry-not-sorry.

[Supersnow845]

Oh 100%, but let's be real, that's not how most raids work. PCT is--at the end of the day--topping numbers, and those numbers are what people are going to look at. Someone could be a 99th percentile black mage, and most people will still take the PCT for party even if they gray parse. I know it. You know it. This happened to WAR and PLD last expansion during P8S. And that was over tank DPS.

Also as a class who has to put in more effort for my damage and has no utility, I expect my damage to be better than a class that has offensive utility and is easier to play--at least in the same role as me. Sorry-not-sorry.

There is no such thing as offensive utility in this game, raid buffs aren’t utility, you can argue tempra grassa is utility and I’d agree but basing the entire balancing design off the existence of tempra grassa is a bit much don’t you think

And balancing based on “PF meta vibes” is literally the worst thing I can possibly imagine

[Basteala]

There is no such thing as offensive utility in this game, raid buffs aren’t utility, you can argue tempra grassa is utility and I’d agree but basing the entire balancing design off the existence of tempra grassa is a bit much don’t you think

And balancing based on “PF meta vibes” is literally the worst thing I can possibly imagine

With respect, you're splitting hairs at this point to try and sell your argument. All that tells me is that your argument lacks foundation...and being honest, that's with good reason. PCT is a problem.

But I'll argue more than Grassa. To use Flare Star we need to have a perfect rotation in the fire phase within a set period of time, or lose the cast. Remind me what PCT has to do for its big damage abilities again?

This isn't just about PCT being overtuned, it's about BLM being handled about as well as the DT MSQ.

[Supersnow845]

With respect, you're splitting hairs at this point to try and sell your argument. All that tells me is that your argument lacks foundation...and being honest, that's with good reason. PCT is a problem.

But I'll argue more than Grassa. To use Flare Star we need to have a perfect rotation in the fire phase within a set period of time, or lose the cast. Remind me what PCT has to do for its big damage abilities again?

This isn't just about PCT being overtuned, it's about BLM being handled about as well as the DT MSQ.

Saying raid buffs aren’t utility isn’t splitting hairs it’s literally just basic truth. If anything trying to pretend like a raid buff is a form of utility is overselling a classes limited utility. PCT’s functional utility is grassa. A powerful but not game breaking ability

BLM was handled terribly in DT but difficulty has almost never played into damage. I agree with you that difficulty SHOULD play into damage which is why I’d actually prefer BLM be ahead in full uptime extrapolation of current data shows they mostly are at least in rDPS. But there is really no way to put BLM ahead in FRU because BLM hates downtime

However current BLM being handled terribly in its design isn’t PCT’s fault. PCT could do SMN level damage and flare star would still be a shit ability forcing a shit rotational design on BLM.