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  1. #21
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    You can run whatever job you like in old content.

    It's fair to make the point that job balance shouldn't make any difference to the casual playerbase. But it still does, in this game, like every other one. Progression means looking up to what better players are doing and emulating their gameplay. Behaviors and attitudes at higher levels of play invariably filter down to lower levels. And that in turn impacts player satisfaction.

    That's also the reason, presumably, why they hired a job balance team. Otherwise, just move them off into designing mogstation glamours so that they can generate more profits off those PCT 'vibes'. We'll see how long that strategy lasts.
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    unhinged reply lmao
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  3. #23
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    You can run whatever job you like in old content.

    It's fair to make the point that job balance shouldn't make any difference to the casual playerbase. But it still does, in this game, like every other one. Progression means looking up to what better players are doing and emulating their gameplay. Behaviors and attitudes at higher levels of play invariably filter down to lower levels. And that in turn impacts player satisfaction.
    Except, here's the thing. What filters down from the Elite Raiders is not typically choice of job. It is: "What is my opener? What is my burst? What is my BiS?" Or sometimes, it is: "Why does my damage suck?" To which the answer is almost always: "Because your uptime sucks."

    One singular Ultimate fight is utterly and completely irrelevant.

    Even in Party Finder for current savages (M1S-M4S), at this moment, I see none of this alleged locking of slot(s) to PCT. Or locking out of physical ranged. (To say nothing of Duty Finder, but I guess that's "old content.")
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Hot take; it's okay for some jobs to be strong under certain conditions.
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Only jobs that really need nerfed is all the tank jobs. Make there dps the same as healers.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    It's worth repeating, but even if PCT gets nerfed -- which yeah it should, other jobs will still need substantial changes, and buffs. Nerfing PCT will cause a pretty substantial power vacuum.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    The fact that the two most overpowered jobs relative to their counterparts in terms of contribution to the raid as a complete set are AST and SCH yet all attention is being given to PCT shows that people are being excessively vibes based with their feelings of how overpowered PCT is

    You lose basically the same damage to swapping an AST for a WHM and you lose basically an entire raids worth of utility swapping SCH for SGE. The fact the healer situation doesn’t have excessive party locks when it arguably has even more reason than PCT shows while PCT needs nerfs people are being way too vibey about how strong PCT is
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    you can just say pictomancer, you don't have to frame it as though you mean anything else
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    Veya Akemi
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    Quote Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses View Post
    This is a theme park mmo. Most people are here for vibes.
    This is a very important point, a similar point: literally yesterday, I was talking to someone on a Discord server, and they were complaining about how every Job has a 1000+ potency skill nowdays, and how much that adds a lot of variance to damage because of crits and dire hits and such, my response to that was, you will have to rip my beautiful 1300 pot Technical Finish from my cold, dead hands, like yeah it sucks when it doesn't crit, but then it does get the perfect damage roll, and you just see over 200k damage fly by in one shot and that just makes me smile, I would be doing a lot less damage if it didn't crit, but that's not as important as how good it feels when it does crit, and that feeling is the reason 1000+ pot finishers are so commonplace now.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    What is the problem, and what exactly do you propose the solution?
    Pictomancer is miles ahead of everyone else, at a degree i've never seen in this game. People will meme and say machinist is bad, but its never truly unplayable. Atm if you're bringing black mage over picto you are trolling your group for example
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