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    I highly doubt there will be multiple 15-20s downtime periods in the 24 man chaotic raid for picto to take advange of. Thats where the real imbalance lies. In full uptime fights the picto problem isnt there.
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    I feel like this is a parsing competitive problem, like I don't see how this damages the content in general, is the DPS variance jobs THAT high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    I feel like this is a parsing competitive problem, like I don't see how this damages the content in general, is the DPS variance jobs THAT high?
    We are talking about making up for large mistakes that would lead to failure of damage checks to outright trivializing damage checks in highest-end content. It is, in that context, incredibly high and it isn't something that is about parsing or competitive problems, it's players wanting the path of least resistence and therefore making Pictomancer basically mandatory in quite a lot of parties, at least in the most recent Ultimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    We are talking about making up for large mistakes that would lead to failure of damage checks to outright trivializing damage checks in highest-end content. It is, in that context, incredibly high and it isn't something that is about parsing or competitive problems, it's players wanting the path of least resistence and therefore making Pictomancer basically mandatory in quite a lot of parties, at least in the most recent Ultimate.
    Reminds me when people would lock out MCH out of parties because their DPS wouldn't guarantee a min ilvl clear. I guess that's fair considering it's FRUltimate.
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    Indeed I've seen some parties locking in a slot for picto.From what I've heard, picto allows for a death or 2 in the fi al phase where the caster jobs don't.
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    Chandani Aranka
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    I've yet to be locked out of my Savage PF clears as Black Mage or SMN. Ive yet to be kicked from an extreme farm for not using picto when I'm caster. I've yet to experience anything negative in relation to roulettes for my job choices. The only lockouts I've seen are in FRU, which, again, is a red flag and not universal.

    You are lucky then as I am BLM have seen many PF groups who has locked casters to PCT for even Extreme farms. It does happen and it will probably increase unless PCT is changed before Chaotic and every group in the alliance will stack 4 PCT, 12 total and just destroy Chaotic.

    Yoshida even admitted in an interview before Savage launched that the raid was tuned to 7.0 stats but 1 job stood out visible, PCT. But rather than fix that 1 job, they increased all others. And with so much time spend on that, they didn't have enough time to retune the raid to the new increased damage and savage was released and made easier than planned.

    PCT is breaking the game. Either nerf if, or take it out of Dawntrail and rerelease it with 8.0 when all Jobs gets there so-called redesign. I'm scared what they will do to 8.0 BLM as they fumbled BLM enough for Dawntrail launch.
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    if there no downtime, then the jobs are fine. You guys didnt touch the content yet and it not available right now.
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    The thing is from what I've heard, PCT was weaker during the press event when Influencers was invited to interviews and test play. Then when Dawntrail launched they launches PCT buffer several hundred of potency. They should just revert PCT back to those numbers imo. It's just breaking raid content at this point :/

    I've never been this close to permanently hang up my BLM rod and shut down my SE account just like I did with my BattleNet account when blizzard launched MOP and I made FFXIV my main mmo back in 2011, 1.0 :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altera View Post
    The thing is from what I've heard, PCT was weaker during the press event when Influencers was invited to interviews and test play. Then when Dawntrail launched they launches PCT buffer several hundred of potency. They should just revert PCT back to those numbers imo. It's just breaking raid content at this point :/

    I've never been this close to permanently hang up my BLM rod and shut down my SE account just like I did with my BattleNet account when blizzard launched MOP and I made FFXIV my main mmo back in 2011, 1.0 :/
    Legitimately curious. Why does what one job do have anything to do with your enjoyment? Let's say they did nerf PCT. How would that change anything you are doing as BLM?
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