Your thoughts on the new Chaotic Alliance Raid having (possibly) BIS gear?

[Absurdity]

The pieces being BiS is basically irrelevant outside of one incredible niche, you're still doing parse runs this late into the raid tier.
All content where these minor side-grades (besides healers finally being able to replace their crafted gloves) would be actually helpful has already been completed.

Now if this content came out at about the same time as savage it would be a very different situation.
Certainly still better than what Criterion offered though.

[Jeeqbit]

The crazy thing is they are adding a loot system to this that everyone has wanted for savage for years. Bonuses to tokens if you help people clear instead of punishing you for helping people clear. If they will do this then why do they need to keep punishing people for helping with savage?

[RaideDuku]

Even if it's BiS compared to Savage, it'll all be obsolete when 7.2 hits. So why worry about it. We don't even know how many Chaotics they're gonna put out in the expansion. This could be the only one. Depending on how popular or not it is, it may be the only one ever.

[Oizen]

Doesn't matter if something is marginally bis compared to savage items, FRU has already been cleared with what we have.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

In an ideal world, savage would already be unlocked in the X.1 patches, so I don't see any problem with this happening in a catch-up patch. There is no prestige to having savage gear, its a treadmill of progression that comes to an abrupt stop the moment ultimate goes down. So proividing people who otherwise wouldn't have BiS gear the possibility of getting it is not a bad thing, in fact, it'll likely lead to more player retention as the one thing many current raiders do not get about the gear system is that gear is the whole form of tangible or meaningful progression in this game. If there is not a means for someone to pursue the attaining of new gear; a means or method relative to their skill level or investment, their interest will wane and they'll quit/unsub until the next chance there is for them to "progress" in some way.

They don't need the gear for what they are doing, that much is true, but the game should stil provide the gear to keep people interested and retain an active playerbase. Something that FFXIV has been woefully incapable of doing before this point in time. So I applaud them for trying this and hope they stick with it for their implementations of Shades Triangle, Criterion and so on. Cosmetics are all well and good and fun but people want to earn new gear and should not be prevented from doing so because of some make believe prestige and importance people tie to having savage gear. Been there, done that, its a miserable mindset to live under.

Great addion if it can be farmed

There's no weekly lockout and you gain a bonus in tokens per new person that clears as well as during bonus times.

[VeyaAkemi]

The short and blunt answer: it's so late into the current tier's lifecycle it doesn't matter, other than minor micro optimizations in FRU.

[Eyrilona]

I just think the gear at this ilvl comes too late in the cycle, little window for it to be relevant before it is obsolete again. That might be why they are this time not locking one, but two mounts behind the same raid? Something to keep players clearing it up to a hundred times extra.

[Akamadoshi]

The crazy thing is they are adding a loot system to this that everyone has wanted for savage for years. Bonuses to tokens if you help people clear instead of punishing you for helping people clear. If they will do this then why do they need to keep punishing people for helping with savage?

you know, I been thinking long and hard about the punishment of helping out in savage. It is outdated method they never changed (made it less punishable though)

[Asari5]

savage gear is overrated anyway. the current ultimate is the only thing you need it for... and only til 735 gear comes around

its good to have more possibilities to gear up your character. its kinda crazy how you cant gear several jobs for so long even though having all jobs on one character is one of the main aspects of the game.

if anything it comes way too late

[VictorSpoils]

Even if it's BiS compared to Savage, it'll all be obsolete when 7.2 hits. So why worry about it. We don't even know how many Chaotics they're gonna put out in the expansion. This could be the only one. Depending on how popular or not it is, it may be the only one ever.

It wouldn't be the first time they had an entire section in the DF for one duty.