Your thoughts on the new Chaotic Alliance Raid having (possibly) BIS gear?

[Themarvin]

Wait are you saying that people that do savage/ultimate should not have an advantage in gear compared to someone who doesn't? Or am I misunderstanding?

Being able to get all BiS on matter what skill you got is irrelevant, and should be obtainable for everyone no matter what way and how you look upon it, the gear itself should not be a reward, possible certain glamours or the likes instead obtained from doing the content, but then that is it.

In fact, removal entirely of item level and stats would be a good plan as well, and make it skill and level based instead, makes it easier for alternative jobs, leveling up alts and more to it as well.

[Collin_Sky]

Being able to get all BiS on matter what skill you got is irrelevant, and should be obtainable for everyone no matter what way and how you look upon it, the gear itself should not be a reward, possible certain glamours or the likes instead obtained from doing the content, but then that is it.

In fact, removal entirely of item level and stats would be a good plan as well, and make it skill and level based instead, makes it easier for alternative jobs, leveling up alts and more to it as well.

Sounds like you should be playing a different game if that's how you feel about ilvl and stats.

Also, it's worth noting that Square Enix has recognized the importance of gear rewards. Criterion and Criterion Savage were largely ignored because there weren’t any worthwhile incentives for players to pursue them.

[Themarvin]

Sounds like you should be playing a different game if that's how you feel about ilvl and stats.

Also, it's worth noting that Square Enix has recognized the importance of gear rewards. Criterion and Criterion Savage were largely ignored because there weren’t any worthwhile incentives for players to pursue them.

I like this game as it is, I just think it could be better the other way around and then putting the focus more in the right place as it is.

It is like you are level 100 you can do everything no matter what, but you need to push through the wall for the more heavy content.

[Collin_Sky]

but you need to push through the wall for the more heavy content.

That's... Literally the point? You need to improve (both skill and gear) in order to challenge new content.

Are you sure you enjoy the game?

The simple fact is games (especially MMOs) need a carrot at the end of the stick, and for most people, especially those this content is designed for, a mere glamour is not enough.

[Rinoa_353]

I'm not a savage raider but this has me really thinking about becoming one because the gear is so nice looking and glam is important for me to chase lol.

[Themarvin]

That's... Literally the point? You need to improve (both skill and gear) in order to challenge new content.

Are you sure you enjoy the game?

The simple fact is games (especially MMOs) need a carrot at the end of the stick, and for most people, especially those this content is designed for, a mere glamour is not enough.

I miss the actual challenge... as soon as geared fully out the stuff becomes a pushover, it should a real hard push all the time, not just being made easier for each 5 or 10 more item level you add to the pool over all per gear upgrade.

[Menriq]

I miss the actual challenge... as soon as geared fully out the stuff becomes a pushover, it should a real hard push all the time, not just being made easier for each 5 or 10 more item level you add to the pool over all per gear upgrade.

So you mean Ultimate?

[Seraiki]

Realistically you don't need BIS to do most of the current content in the game, and for a marginal increase it's not going to be a make-or-break for content that recommends it. I think Chaotic Alliance will be a great addition though, especially for gearing alts up. Very welcomed side-content to do in between my weekly reclears.

[Collin_Sky]

I miss the actual challenge... as soon as geared fully out the stuff becomes a pushover, it should a real hard push all the time, not just being made easier for each 5 or 10 more item level you add to the pool over all per gear upgrade.

Well, by all digging I can do, unless you have an alt account displayed as your forum character, you don't do any of the currently challenging content the game has to offer... So maybe start with that before complaining the game has no challenge in it?

[BigCheez]

Being able to get all BiS on matter what skill you got is irrelevant, and should be obtainable for everyone no matter what way and how you look upon it, the gear itself should not be a reward, possible certain glamours or the likes instead obtained from doing the content, but then that is it.

In fact, removal entirely of item level and stats would be a good plan as well, and make it skill and level based instead, makes it easier for alternative jobs, leveling up alts and more to it as well.

Honestly, I agree that they should just remove item level and "gearing" from FFXIV as it doesn't add any value within the current design of the game.

Gear progression doesn't exist in FFXIV. You buy/craft crafted gear on savage patch and that gear is good enough to clear savage. Savage isn't gear gated at all, so getting savage/tome gear just trivialises the content and doesn't serve any purpose beyond parsing. Four months later, we get an ultimate and everyone has had so long to get their BiS sets that it doesn't really matter.

Gearing doesn't really add value outside of more traditional MMOs like FFXI or WoW that have tiered endgames that you progress through as you acquire more gear. It's just an arbitrary box to tick in FFXIV. You either have BiS or you probably don't engage with endgame content.