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  1. #11
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!
    This is one of the only scenarios where the AoE DoT is usable, where it barely gets use because you're single-dotting everything one-by-one during pulls because they're spread out by default. It's not a problem if the DoTs stack, but they do not.
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  2. #12
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    Winter Gem
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    I'm shocked anyone would actually complain about the dots being stackable. What a wild world to live in.
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  3. #13
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I'm shocked anyone would actually complain about the dots being stackable. What a wild world to live in.
    Yeah that part would be fine, of course. Just not to turn the AoE DoT into a DoT spreader instead.
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    I'm shocked anyone would actually complain about the dots being stackable. What a wild world to live in.
    From doing some skimming of the japanese healer forums to see their reaction to the healer strike it seemed like most of them prefer healer to be an extremely low effort job.
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  5. #15
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Breaking News (or not) : SE don't like DoT
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Breaking News (or not) : SE don't like DoT
    The fact healers have kept their DoTs for so long tells me otherwise. Plus, multiple new classes have been added with Debuffs that cause the same issue as DoTs. As always SE makes questionable choices and gives little to no explanation as to why.
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    If I'm 5 seconds into a Rez please don't use Swift Cast and steal my glory. Just let me waste the MP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    The fact healers have kept their DoTs for so long tells me otherwise. Plus, multiple new classes have been added with Debuffs that cause the same issue as DoTs. As always SE makes questionable choices and gives little to no explanation as to why.
    *Look at SMN Rework, At Scholar DoT major pruning, at the removal of DoT on Ninja and Monk, of the lessened importance of Bard DoT and several others DoT removed*
    Yeah SE Love DoT /irony.
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  8. #18
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    The fact healers have kept their DoTs for so long tells me otherwise.
    No it tells you it's low-priority on their task board, like everything that has "healer" in it. Green post-it notes have worse glue so they keep falling off, in case you didn't know. :P
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  9. #19
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    The healer DOT’s just feel like legacy filler they never really came up with adequate justification to delete

    I mean the whole point of this thread about e dyskrasia being hilariously underpowered because the devs obviously don’t actually understand how the healer DOT’s work so it’s obvious they are just there because they can’t be bothered deleting them even if they don’t care either way
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #20
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    Medim Azurarok
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    A little off topic, but DoTs don't do damage when the boss is untargetable in most content, right? And I've heard it used to not be that way? It seems kinda silly they went out of their way to punish refreshing them right before that happens, but also go and make a job that's rewarded with a bucketload of extra damage in the same situation
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    Last edited by Azurarok; 12-07-2024 at 12:41 AM.

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