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    Carighan's Avatar
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!
    I’d much rather the bane idea because e dyskrasia is deceptively weak and SGE is crying out for literally any kit interaction

    How can you lose in kit interaction to literally the only class in tje game that has dys synergy
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Would also love to see double dots back, but since we're likely not getting it, turning it into GCD Bane is basically the next best thing as dot overlap is another issue that players can run into.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!
    Doesn't change the fact that it's still annoying to deal with. No one likes playing with a gimped kit even in casual content. E Dyskrasia is only a gain on 4, anyway, so there are still times where E Dosis is better when pulling packs. Turning it into a Bane (maybe also in the hopes of getting E Phlegma in the future for that Miasma II gameplay) would make it less clunky and more fun to use. My reason for taking more than one cast instead of one?

    Fun. That's literally it. Players are so obsessed with things being as accessible and streamlined as possible that any friction that requires brainpower to overcome is seen as a bad thing. It's called gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

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    Victor Spoils
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    Honestly if you're the kind of person who optimizes their single-vs-AoE DoT for something as utterly meaningless (in regards to optimized damage) as dungeon pack pulls, then it really also doesn't matter. You got a single and an AoE DoT. Use the AoE if there's multiple enemies. Could you optimize it a bit more? Sure. Does it matter? Of course not, and why would you make it take two full casts to apply the AoE DoT instead of a single one?!
    This is one of the only scenarios where the AoE DoT is usable, where it barely gets use because you're single-dotting everything one-by-one during pulls because they're spread out by default. It's not a problem if the DoTs stack, but they do not.
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