MMO addiction

[ZephyrMenodora]

If you are still begging for others things after playing for 10 years maybe play the actual game rather than begging for peoples things on the forums

Pure White Dyes are expensive. It doens't matter how much I play, I will take free gil lol.

As far as the topic - I like the game so I still play. When I'm bored, I don't - since I'm not addicated. I just come here less when there isn't anything I'm interested in complaining about - as that what this forum seems to focus on.

I'll probably be more active in 7.2 when Wuk returns and I'll get another 200 posts about that or so.

[RyoXander]

It's not because you're older. People of all ages make lots of friends in this game. At the end of the day, you either know how to make friends in this game or you don't - age has nothing to do with it.

I made a post recently about ways to find social interaction. I've written such posts occasionally through the years https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6626688

Thanks for that read. I have come to the conclusion that the reason I "find it hard" to make friends is because I just don't care enough. I'm burned out from MMOs and really only casually play this one due to my "loyalty" to the Final Fantasy franchise. I have a bunch of wonderful friends on other games I play that are (at least for me) more fun. I dislike the mundane combat system in this game so there is little incentive to try to want to make friends to clear content with.

Like I said, thanks for the great read cuz it did help to clear things up.

[Rithy255]

complaining about some aspects of the game doesn't mean I dislike the game

Wild to comprehend I know.

[Ryaze]

I was definitely addicted to FFXI, but not XIV; it's too casual (which I love now). I remember when I played XI I had a ton of friends and the game was very social. I never got that same feeling with 14 and instead have had just a very small circle of friends. Now its just me and one other close friend who joined an FC that has very nice people in it. Idk why I find it so much harder to make friends in this game. Is it cuz im older? who knows lol.

This game is oddly very anti-social. In that they have designed quite a few systems that seemingly discourage player interaction. In every other MMO I've played, the moment you login you get hit with system messages notifying you of important events as well as telling you every single public chat channel you've entered based on your location. This game doesn't have city wide chat, all cities chat, regional chat, or a global chat channel. FFXIV has "zone wide" chats, but the game doesn't explain this system to you at any point in time. FFXIV has decent little "tutorials" on their website, but at no point in time playing the game does it direct you to these resources. Use /shout chat? O, it doesn't reach the other half of whatever main city you're in because that's a separate instance. Your dungeon just popped and at the same time you see someone request a service/ask a question in a local chat channel. Nope, you can't send private messages in a dungeon/instance either.

This game has some of the worst, if not the absolute worst, UI bloat in any game I've played and the onboarding process for a new player has got to be nuts at this point, let alone if they've never played an MMO, and even worse if they've played very few games in general. Imagine constantly getting hit with tip boxes every time you do something new, on top of trying to just learn the general flow of the game, and you don't even know how to ask for help because the game obfuscates how to actually talk to other players instead of defaulting you into /1 General zone chat, unlike every other MMO I've ever played.

[NaoSen]

The one social activity available to even do in a nice chill way (maps) has to have been nerfed so hard into the ground that its gotten to the point of full party groups now down to just duo.
22 maps, 5 portals, times gotten past room 2... twice, past room 3 ? Once.

I am sure they got nerfed, "Let us make these coffers rare by making it so that no-one wants to do the content anymore".

[Daralii]

Am I the only one who thinks that people complain about FFXIV so frequently precisely because they care a lot about it? People don’t generally dedicate their time to thinking about things they straight up do not care about.

Every person who makes a complaint does so because they want something they care about to improve. I mean, isn’t that the whole point of complaining? To hope it might instigate change or convince others to do the same?

Personally I wouldn’t class blatantly malicious or otherwise ‘invalid’ / ‘misleading’ / ‘troll’ or whatever else people do these days to stir up internet drama as being the same as a ‘genuine complaint’.

I.E
‘This game is trash and it’s probably going in the ground where it belongs and I’ll dance on its grave if it ever does’ - not a ‘genuine’ complaint because it’s just trying to be incendiary and doesn’t really seem like they care what happens
‘This game is dying and it’s because of ‘X’ content it needs this, this and a little bit of this!’
- it’s overdramatic lol, but by indicating specifically what they want to change it’s more apparent that the person wants things to improve, so it’s still a ‘genuine complaint’ because it’s coming from a place of wanting things to change for the better (regardless of what the feedback ends up being lol).

That’s what I think anyway. Whether people are ‘addicted’ or not is one thing, but I think the constant stream of negative feedback comes from people who actually do (in one way or another) truly care about the game’s future. Not to say that their feedback is always going to make sense or should always be followed lol

Yoshida said himself that the people that are loud as they're leaving are the ones that still care, but the majority will leave without saying a word.

[genuine_stranger]

Yoshida said himself that the people that are loud as they're leaving are the ones that still care, but the majority will leave without saying a word.

Exactly, and according to some folks, once all the loud complainers who still care leave, FFXIV will apparently enter its "Renaissance." Because, you know, nothing fuels innovation and progress like silence and indifference, right?

[radpeepo]

I can almost guarantee you that every single person who posts on this forum, did so because they had a complaint to make. This forum does not build a positive response from a base of players, it generates eternal victims and pessimists. That's not to say that there aren't good people here, but this forum is not the reason for it. You get out what you put into something and people can feel it on the other side.

it's really important for players to leave feedback (especially critical feedback) for developers and designers so that they can understand the playerbase's point of view. it may seem like it's just more negativity that is blown out of proportion, but in reality a lot of this game (and many other games for that matter) may have not changed if not for feedback in the first place

the game even tells players to leave feedback through the forums so obviously people are gonna make noise about things they don't like

i understand your perspective and i do think some people could express their feedback in a much healthier way, but i think i'd rather them speak their mind than not, at least from a designer point of view


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anyway i wanna take longer breaks from this game but for some reason my feeble brain can't stomach the idea of losing my virtual house, so instead i find enjoyment by achievement hunting w/ friends and playing with random streamers on twitch

[Akonyl]

I have my beefs with the game, but I do think people are overblowing a lot of it. I mostly just play nowadays to raid + MSQ though, with raiding just being an excuse to get together and have some fun with people (I wouldn't bother raiding if it was all PF with randos, for example). But that's just kind of natural, aside from 2.1-2.4, I've basically been playing this since the launch of ARR.

[Reinha]

Exactly, and according to some folks, once all the loud complainers who still care leave, FFXIV will apparently enter its "Renaissance." Because, you know, nothing fuels innovation and progress like silence and indifference, right?

It's amusing how they think if the current complainers leave there won't be any more complaining. As if no future patch will disappoint the people who choose to stay now. But if they care enough to bicker with people who are complaining about the game now, there is a high chance that one day they will care enough to let the devs know why they are dissatisfied with the game. Then the biggest white knights will be on the receiving end of being told to just shut up and leave. I would know.