3 decent garduda weps

[Lux_Rayna]

pro tip i can dd and build my enmity more too god are ppl mentally challenged? the whm is made to heal and buff just because u can cast a weak dd spell doesnt mean u shud i want a wep that enhances what whm is built for not its pathetic side job your all trying to shove down my throat.

First of all cnj =/= whm. I am talking about cnj, I have no idea why you are mentioning whm. The two are difference. WHM is cnj with a specialization in healing. Cnj can heal and it can dd. In fact, ive seen cnjs outparse DD's, no joke.

So let me reiterate, a CNJ (whm is not in this conversation) can also function as a dd. No dev ever said cnj was only a healing class. The problem is devs couldnt anticipate that ppl would be so stubborn and so "stupid" that they treat FFXIV classes like FFXI jobs. They are not the same, they can be used differently. For example:

You can have one cnj heal, and one cnj as dps/backup heal. Thats just one example. Again, ppl are too close-minded and don't think outside the little box they make for classes. There's a reason classes and jobs are different. SE is trying to beat this into ppl's tiny brains but they still can't comprehend it. We even have class-specific gear now but ppl are STILL befuddled. What do you mean cnj and whm is different?! Why are they putting dmg buffs on cnj weapons?!

Its called a clue. Lrn2read it. SE can't make it anymore obvious. They are telling you: Cnj. Can. DD. Please. Use. And. Consider. This.

God damn SE needs to make a guidebook with all the secret and amazing things classes can do because apparently ppl lack the brain matter to comprehend a class that can do more than one thing.

[Niqote]

umm...wrong

if your whm cant nuke + heal at the same time, you suck. whms using stone on coincounter/miser is a huge buff to blms dps and like chard said aerora does nice dmg to coincounter, +40 wind potency only enhances that and the +enfeebling makes the magic eva down from stone and the bleed from aero stick more often

Yep, Whm certainly does do a little DD when we have idle/start of fight/throw a heavy on that b*tch time... but the thing is our main weapon is always the healing staff because let's face it we are there to heal.

And since I can't change my weapon in battle ... the new garuda weapon is not very effective. I already had a +wind one handed weapon for when I solo ...

[Aruseth]

First of all cnj =/= whm. I am talking about cnj, I have no idea why you are mentioning whm. The two are difference. WHM is cnj with a specialization in healing. Cnj can heal and it can dd. In fact, ive seen cnjs outparse DD's, no joke.

So let me reiterate, a CNJ (whm is not in this conversation) can also function as a dd. No dev ever said cnj was only a healing class. The problem is devs couldnt anticipate that ppl would be so stubborn and so "stupid" that they treat FFXIV classes like FFXI jobs. They are not the same, they can be used differently. For example:

You can have one cnj heal, and one cnj as dps/backup heal. Thats just one example. Again, ppl are too close-minded and don't think outside the little box they make for classes. There's a reason classes and jobs are different. SE is trying to beat this into ppl's tiny brains but they still can't comprehend it. We even have class-specific gear now but ppl are STILL befuddled. What do you mean cnj and whm is different?! Why are they putting dmg buffs on cnj weapons?!

Its called a clue. Lrn2read it. SE can't make it anymore obvious. They are telling you: Cnj. Can. DD. Please. Use. And. Consider. This.

God damn SE needs to make a guidebook with all the secret and amazing things classes can do because apparently ppl lack the brain matter to comprehend a class that can do more than one thing.

cnj and whm are the exact same job with there abilities - a few. and if your going in as cnj to just dd then there is a difference there too. point is whm/cnj can do dd but when its all said and done we exist to heal with maybe some supportive dd when we can. im just saying i want a wep that plays to my strengths like every other job has.

[Chardrizard]

I toss out a stone and shiz too but I want a wep that focuses on my strengths like every other jobs has not my side job. Enmity - and healing pot / hp mp are more useful to whm than a lil extra dmg or enfeebling is. that is the point im getting at whm is getting screwed on the weps while the other jobs boost there strengths.

We already have Healing Potency+40 staff for healers out there that sits on their 3k MP most of the time. both WHM and CNJ have DD capabilities, none of their nukes are weak, jsut because you aren't gear for it, doesn't mean its weak.

[Dzian]

Yep, Whm certainly does do a little DD when we have idle/start of fight/throw a heavy on that b*tch time... but the thing is our main weapon is always the healing staff because let's face it we are there to heal.

imo you're better of melding vit onto a jade crook or something to boost enhancing skill than using the healing staff. regen really is "that damn good."

[Lux_Rayna]

cnj and whm are the exact same job with there abilities - a few. and if your going in as cnj to just dd then there is a difference there too. point is whm/cnj can do dd but when its all said and done we exist to heal with maybe some supportive dd when we can. im just saying i want a wep that plays to my strengths like every other job has.

There are weapons that do though, and few outside of primal weapons that play towards the dd side of cnj. SE does their best to give ppl options. I'm sure there will be a primal in the future that focuses on healing, but I dont think Garuda is a good choice for it.

[Niqote]

imo you're better of melding vit onto a jade crook or something to boost enhancing skill than using the healing staff. regen really is "that damn good."

Regen is my lovely friend whom I visit often, But I have a vit+18 ring etc to help her out. I like to bomb people with a 1600 cure because some of these mobs hit like a truck, and that ugly ass staff is the best single item healing pot we have, so i will utilize it

[Aruseth]

We already have Healing Potency+40 staff for healers out there that sits on their 3k MP most of the time. both WHM and CNJ have DD capabilities, none of their nukes are weak, jsut because you aren't gear for it, doesn't mean its weak.

Compared to blm cnj/whm nukes are weak. and if your going into a group raid or fight then you shouldnt be going in as cnj/whm to do main dmg over a blm/thm. whm cnj at the end of the day is there to heal and the +40 healing staff while good for healing looks like crap.. just be nice to have a cool looking wep with main stats that affect our healing side not our dmging side. i would gladly sacrafice a lil enfeeb magic and 40 wind dmg to be a better healer especially since in the long run my dmg will not out-weigh that of a real dd. and if any cnj or whm ever out dmgs any other dd class then those dd's blew the big donkey ****.

[UmJammerSully]

Pro Tip: You can nuke and heal, Difference is alot when u can deal extra 7-10k at raids especially if you are speedrunning.

come back again when u know your class.

No-one is disputing that CNJ/WHM can deal damage! I throw nukes all the time. I enjoy the fact that they're not pure healers, but it boggles my mind that I have to keep pointing out that both CNJ and WHM primarly role is to heal and buff and having the nukes is a bonus, they are never going to out-damage a THM or BLM.

Having damage stats on these CNJ/WHM primal weapons isn't entirely useless, no, but every other class gets stats that directly benefit their primary role.

[Lux_Rayna]

No-one is disputing that CNJ/WHM can deal damage! I throw nukes all the time. I enjoy the fact that they're not pure healers, but it boggles my mind that I have to keep pointing out that both CNJ and WHM primarly role is to heal and buff and having the nukes is a bonus, they are never going to out-damage a THM or BLM.

Having damage stats on these CNJ/WHM primal weapons isn't entirely useless, no, but every other class gets stats that directly benefit their primary role.

You can still use the THM fire combo as well, for whatever good it does...probably doesn't do much but you *can* do it. Also for balance reasons SE can't give you a high dmg weapon AND a high healing pot weapon. That is the holy grail of all weapons. You would have everything you needed in one piece of gear which is entirely broken.