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    BigSpenDaBeast's Avatar
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    Mitsukuni Karu
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses View Post
    Do you want a real answer? Because it's pretty simple: When the servers were first designed, they weren't designed with cross world interaction in mind, let alone data center interaction. It's very hard to implement a new feature in an existing system without reworking said system. There's a lot more under the hood that would need reworking, especially something as sensitive as something that handles character data. Something goes wrong? People could lose their characters.

    It's why it took a while for us to get cross server pf. For us to visit different worlds in the DC. Then for us to visit other DCs. No doubt that Square is trying to figure out cross DC PF. But it can't be understated that dealing with tech debt is a challenge.

    Yet a large portion of people will still think it's a matter of them pressing a button or writing a few lines of code and then the feature will exist. I pity those sorts of people.
    Oh, I'm sure it's hard, but a year and a half and we haven't really had any update on the status of cross dc pf? That's plenty of time to do just about anything. Other game's had the same limitation, but figured it out. If SE doesn't have the team capable of accomplishing it, they need to make changes. The DC issue is not getting any better, if anything its getting worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akamadoshi View Post
    At least you get to travel to Aether. Be happy you're not in JP
    Late Monday / early Tuesday through Wednesday Mana DC is closed. If you want your reclears you better logout in mana long before reset.


    Now that ultimate is out, if you traveled home to get gil/retainers, you'd be out of luck. It was so bad, on Saturday 3 servers of GAIA was closed+entire Mana.
    Meteor is not very popular raiding/Ele uses different strat than PF. At the least you are not locked out of your weekly lockouts. You just have to travel like everyone else.
    I literally have to wake up at 3am EST to move to Aether because it's locked by 7am EST. Then if I want to use my retainers or house, I'm SOL or I have to do it all over again. It's exhausting and has really soured me on trying to even raid FRU consistently.

    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    The problem isn't DC travel as much as it is the DC travel limitations imposed in 7.05, there are issues with DC travel for sure, but the benefits far outweight the negatives, but then the limitation broke the camel's back, and turned the annoying-but-bearable issues brought about by DC travel into completely unbearable.
    I used to agree with this statement, but lately I can't agree that the positives outweigh the negatives. I used to be able to form PF groups on Primal for high end content, now it is impossible to get a group for the content on it's release week. That is a complete and utter failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSpenDaBeast View Post
    Oh, I'm sure it's hard, but a year and a half and we haven't really had any update on the status of cross dc pf? That's plenty of time to do just about anything. Other game's had the same limitation, but figured it out. If SE doesn't have the team capable of accomplishing it, they need to make changes. The DC issue is not getting any better, if anything its getting worse.
    I made the last paragraph about this exact line of thinking. "They need to do it." "They need to make changes." "It should be enough time." Bro, it took years to get cross server PF. I remember transferring servers, shelling out the money to do so, just to raid. If the highly requested feature wasn't a huge task to implement, Square would take the free win. Clearly it's not an easy fix.

    And to suggest they "make changes" to their team if they can't figure it out is the most laughable Karen shit. What changes? Different people that don't know the codebase, that would need training and to be brought up to speed, thus increasing the delay further?

    There are other factors, too. Maybe it doesn't meet the cost vs benefit ratio. Maybe time allocation isn't allowing it. You can do anything when you ignore all the logistics to doing the thing. Fact is, we only know that they are aware of the strain DC travel has caused and that should prompt a solution. And official statements. Outside of that? Tossup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses View Post
    I made the last paragraph about this exact line of thinking. "They need to do it." "They need to make changes." "It should be enough time." Bro, it took years to get cross server PF. I remember transferring servers, shelling out the money to do so, just to raid. If the highly requested feature wasn't a huge task to implement, Square would take the free win. Clearly it's not an easy fix.

    And to suggest they "make changes" to their team if they can't figure it out is the most laughable Karen shit. What changes? Different people that don't know the codebase, that would need training and to be brought up to speed, thus increasing the delay further?
    That's kind of just flat out wrong. If you do not understand that there are professional server managers that know how to merge databases and get the information to work together, then I really don't know what to tell you. The team that manages the server should be professional and capable of doing something like that. It happens all the time outside of video games, databases are databases. It does not take a year to accomplish that. It literally either is a resource issue where they just don't have the capabilities of doing it internally, or straight up ignoring it at this point. Either way is unacceptable for a game as large as this that requires $15 a month to play.

    I've literally played and been subbed every single month since beta for 2.0 began. My patience is wearing thin. That's that. I moved off of Aether because of congestion and the promise that I could still play the game on other servers. That promise was broken.
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    Julietta Breauling
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSpenDaBeast View Post
    That's kind of just flat out wrong. If you do not understand that there are professional server managers that know how to merge databases and get the information to work together, then I really don't know what to tell you. The team that manages the server should be professional and capable of doing something like that. It happens all the time outside of video games, databases are databases. It does not take a year to accomplish that. It literally either is a resource issue where they just don't have the capabilities of doing it internally, or straight up ignoring it at this point. Either way is unacceptable for a game as large as this that requires $15 a month to play.

    I've literally played and been subbed every single month since beta for 2.0 began. My patience is wearing thin. That's that. I moved off of Aether because of congestion and the promise that I could still play the game on other servers. That promise was broken.
    Literally YoshiP said hinted they are working on it. In the last live letter when they talked about the PVP ranked changes they knew it was not ideal and they were working on a better system that should encompasse other types of content.

    As per Miuna's raw translation:
    "This is not entirely what I want to do.... Like Ideally you should just match from whereever right?"
    "But.... I can't say this yet"
    "We are working on a matching system that invovles every kind of content"
    "As soon as I have more news, I will make the announcement"
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