I gotta get this out of my system or imma lose my mind

[dspguy]

Just to play devil's advocate... level 100 isn't an actual accomplishment in this game. Not when there are a plethora of ways to earn experience without actually learning your job or facing any real difficulties. So saying "you should know this by now since you are level 100" is a poor argument.

If you are level 100, you should know better

[Absurdity]

Just to play devil's advocate... level 100 isn't an actual accomplishment in this game. Not when there are a plethora of ways to earn experience without actually learning your job or facing any real difficulties. So saying "you should know this by now since you are level 100" is a poor argument.

If you are level 100, you should know better

No, it absolutely is a valid argument.

Leveling in such a way that someone never gains experience with that job is a conscious choice, so it also falls on them to learn how to actually play elsewhere, be that watching guides or practicing on a training dummy.

The same applies to the people who buy level skips, it's not my job to adjust to you not knowing where your tank stance is or what your cooldowns do 90 levels into the game just because you couldn't be bothered.

[Carighan]

Leveling in such a way that someone never gains experience with that job is a conscious choice, so it also falls on them to learn how to actually play elsewhere, be that watching guides or practicing on a training dummy.

The same applies to the people who buy level skips, it's not my job to adjust to you not knowing where your tank stance is or what your cooldowns do 90 levels into the game just because you couldn't be bothered.

I'd actually go a step further, tbh. If someone levels normally, enjoys their ultralight gameplay, and just doesn't realize - maybe they're just not used to many video games and in particular not MMORPGs? - that there is more to the job than just pressing one button and walking from mob to mob, I'm happy to explain. I'm happy to take a lot of time to let them adapt, explain, practice, etc. We were all newbies once, and I'm always delighted when video games such as MMORPGs appeal to absolutely-non-gamer players. After all, about 25 years ago I played EQ1 with my parents also playing, and that was a really cool experience to see them play that game (my dad was a Warrior, my mum a Cleric, me an Enchantress, so we always had the group basics down ). And as long as everyone is polite and explains ahead of time and all, I'll take however much time it needs, and I might try to establish some sort of middle-ground if someone else in the group has less time too. I wouldn't want a genuinely knew player who is overwhelmed but also delighted to not try this any more and just play the game as a pseudo-single-player until they wander off due to 2-3 bad experiences. Depends on who they are socially of course, but I met so many so nice people in this game, I would rather pay it forward, even in rather extreme cases such as a lvl100 having virtually no experience with their character. It just... happens. Quite frequently, actually! And now out of ill will at all, the game is that bad at teaching you anything.

On the other hand, if someone used a level skip, the gloves are off! You intentionally skipped the part that would allow you to learn, so either way you cannot have done it anyways. It's on you to make up for the levels lost experiencing and practicing the game now. Don't go all "I'm new and I don't know what to do", you clearly knew enough to spend money on explotiative mtx, might as well spend brain on non-exploitative practice now!

Don't but mtx and expect compassion from me, basically. In particular not something like level or story skips.

[Nero-Voidstails]

it's a team play for sure but I will say this not everyone is confident in they're skills so honestly I follow the tanks and just look around for gposes because not everyone wanna go fast even if people want to go fast everyone have to respect each other no matter what. some also have disability that can make big pulls harder for them I always keep that in mind. last thing to if a tank small pulls because of X reason forcing a bigger pulls can be considered a grief sadly just be mindful of all those thing that's all

[Celine_Aurora]

it doesnt matter that your LV 100 in everything.
it doesnt matter that you have the mentor role
if you go out of your way to force bigger pulls just cause your impatient you are annoying

if you want wall pulls then either just ask lie a decent person or be tank yourself

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on a completely unrelated and more positive note, finished EW two days ago! soo good and now i wait for the third peep of my group to catch up so we can all go into DT together!

Wdym "not doing one wave but doing two or three but not five" my guy? You either pull one pack or you pull two because there isn't any more to pull before a wall

It seems like an inability to press Unleash + Rampart issue

[Celine_Aurora]

Yeah but not the point. I still prioritize the social nature of an MMORPG over "but you ought to!". It's about playing together with other people after all. Hence if the group as a group decide we're doing single group pulls and I'm not in a hurry, sure I'll go along with it. It's a group effort after all, no need to be aggressive to people for openly talking about (game-)insecurities.

But OP isn't talking about their insecurities, are they? They are talking about prioritizing their own ejoyement over other people's enjoyement (and time). Accusing people of annoying them even, rather than politely asking.