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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    You probably aren't going to get sanctioned for that, especially if it is genuine, and you make an effort to join in on the combat once you are done.

    What you may get sanctioned for, however, is if you refuse to join combat after watching a cutscene.

    "If you are a tank, someone pulls and you don't skip to rescue them..." -- I very much doubt this, and frankly this response just comes across as trying to assign themselves a victim card because people are actually watching the cutscene. If this happens then a successful dispute is likely to be the case. If this were also universally applied (and not just happenstance with over-enforcement of rules), then I would go as far to say that there would be a non-insignificant amount of drama about it.

    The counter to the above point is that the perception can be that the person pulling and expecting the player to skip can be seen as compelling a playstyle, which is also listed, as much as lethargy is.
    lethargy-- this is the second time I have heard this term used within the context of tank gameplay. Is Lethargy a term that's actually somewhere in the ToS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostar View Post
    lethargy-- this is the second time I have heard this term used within the context of tank gameplay. Is Lethargy a term that's actually somewhere in the ToS?
    See below:
    Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior
    Refers to an act of performing actions that give an advantage to an enemy (monsters, or the opposing team/players in PvP content) by not performing the necessary gameplay required of the situation. This may be combined with combat sabotage as well.
    These are all listed in Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    See below:


    These are all listed in Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV
    The Key Points of this section makes it pretty clear that this does not apply to a tank who does not jump into combat to save a DPS because they are waiting on someone to finish the cutscene to join combat first.

    Each player has a different level of skill, and in some cases, there may be a situation where the duty/content will fail. From the perspective of a skilled player in such a situation, a less skilled player may appear to be "adversarial/uncooperative/apathetic," but even if this is the case, it is not a violation as long as the player is playing appropriately.

    For example, the following types of situations fall under the act of giving an advantage to the enemy (or the opposing team/players in PvP content):
    "I don't want to heal because there is a player I don't like in the group."
    "I don't think we can clear this anyway, so I'll just get hit by the enemy attack and go AFK after I'm knocked out."
    "I'm going to join the opposing team as a healer and do nothing so my friends on the other team can win the PvP content."
    If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    Please note that Square Enix may conduct investigations and issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed if the act has been confirmed publicly through online video, streaming services, or other means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostar View Post
    The Key Points of this section makes it pretty clear that this does not apply to a tank who does not jump into combat to save a DPS because they are waiting on someone to finish the cutscene to join combat first.

    Each player has a different level of skill, and in some cases, there may be a situation where the duty/content will fail. From the perspective of a skilled player in such a situation, a less skilled player may appear to be "adversarial/uncooperative/apathetic," but even if this is the case, it is not a violation as long as the player is playing appropriately.

    For example, the following types of situations fall under the act of giving an advantage to the enemy (or the opposing team/players in PvP content):
    "I don't want to heal because there is a player I don't like in the group."
    "I don't think we can clear this anyway, so I'll just get hit by the enemy attack and go AFK after I'm knocked out."
    "I'm going to join the opposing team as a healer and do nothing so my friends on the other team can win the PvP content."
    If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    Please note that Square Enix may conduct investigations and issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed if the act has been confirmed publicly through online video, streaming services, or other means.
    Yeah, that was my point, really. The person in the screenshot is talking about reporting is trying to come at it from a perspective of lethargy which doesn't apply. I mean they cite inactivity but I imagine they're trying to refer to lethargy.

    Either way, yes it is nonsense.
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