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    Momori Mori
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    I still haven't managed to force myself through 7.1.

    Got to the scene of Wuk trying to comfort a brain-dead child about coping with sphenes loss..........YOU LITERALLY KILLED HER, WHY DOES NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLOT?

    Part of the appeal to me has always been that they go into detail showing how the common folk in almost every culture in eorzea react to the events our protagonists cause and those repercussions. This is a key element of FFXIV's storytelling and to deny it seems disrespectful to writers and fans alike.

    So we still not acknowledging Wuk is an invading oppressor who has installed a child-puppet to rule? This isn't the reality of course but the idea that an entire culture and civilization just seem to accept this as totally fine breaks my suspension of disbelief (among many other parts of DT), why ever care about the story again when nothing matters? Anything can be explained away with magical sharlyan bullshit. Consequences do not exist. Characters are little mouth puppets that will act however the plot convenience demands.
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    Kennar Stonebreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    Final fantasy XIV Online: Dawntrail - Patch 7.1: Cossroads (To The Milk Store)
    I called it Patch 7.1: Four Tacos and a Funeral.


    Quote Originally Posted by LisseyCrowe View Post
    As someone not familiar with FFXI's world, and so cannot really feel nostalgic and/or identify what is and isn't references and such, is the Raid story really that good or ..?
    I spent a lot of time with XI many years ago. To me, this raid was just nostalgia bait. I enjoyed the music, and high-rez Lower Jeuno is great. I had a chuckle over the shadow asking for a tele-taxi to Mea, but if you've never played XI that little bit of dialog means nothing, or is outright confusing. As for the story itself, I thought the villian reveal was stupid, his plan to take over the world is stupid, and using electrope as a narrative crutch to bring literally anything into existance is lazy. I kind of checked out after that. I think the next two raids are going to be more of the same. Overall, it just made me wish for an updated FFXI.


    Quote Originally Posted by undull1 View Post
    Got to the scene of Wuk trying to comfort a brain-dead child about coping with sphenes loss..........YOU LITERALLY KILLED HER, WHY DOES NOBODY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLOT?
    ...
    So we still not acknowledging Wuk is an invading oppressor who has installed a child-puppet to rule? This isn't the reality of course but the idea that an entire culture and civilization just seem to accept this as totally fine breaks my suspension of disbelief (among many other parts of DT), why ever care about the story again when nothing matters? Anything can be explained away with magical sharlyan bullshit. Consequences do not exist. Characters are little mouth puppets that will act however the plot convenience demands.
    Playing Devil's advocate here, like I said in my previous post, I don't think citizens of Alexandria know what happened in Living Memory. They know Sphene is "dead," but I don't think they would know the hows and the whys. I seem to remember something about the existence of the Meso Terminal being a secret, which raises further questions about what the people actually do know. Unfortunately, this is just one of many loose threads that aren't likely to be tied together; future narrative will just be forced into whatever shape the writers want.

    As to Gulooa Ja, remember that it was Everkeep's computer systems that elevated him, based solely on heredity. I find it strange that nobody shows him any deference and he still dresses like a peasant from the backwaters of Mamook, but whatever. Also, it was the Alexandrians who invaded, and we crashed a train into their fortress to access what should be disputed territory. We were invited into Everkeep as guests, and as far as I know Wuk has had zero influence in Alexandria (shutting down Living Memory notwithstanding, but that goes to my previous questions). That a foreign military is still operating with impunity on Turalian soil is an issue that will never be addressed. These questions of politics and diplomacy are too complex for this story.
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    Last edited by Kennar; 11-27-2024 at 11:33 PM.

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    Sakura Ichijo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennar View Post
    I called it Patch 7.1: Four Tacos and a Funeral.
    Ha!
    Love it!
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    Dawntrail is what I imagine the entire MSQ as a healer-main.