Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Turnintino]

So, I was doing the EW role quests for tanks today and, uh...



This can't be right lol.

[Doopliss]

So, I was doing the EW role quests for tanks today and, uh...



This can't be right lol.

Child (and Padjal) faces have looked really unnerving to me since the update; I believe they're not updated, but for some reason they're missing textures around their eyes that used to be there (and, before it was reported as a bug, sometimes had really "squishy" sclera, like E-Sumi-Yan). This happened to Jullus, too, before he had his face updated in this patch. He was missing the dark "eyeliner" around his upper eyelid, like Raya-O-Senna is here.

I think it's hilarious how child/young models also weren't prioritized for the graphic update, considering they keep using them in story and zooming in on them.

[Jaltaer]

I posted this in another thread, but since this is the "big" graphics feedback thread, I figured I should crosspost it here too...

Retook an old pic from 6.5 with roughly the same lighting and shaders - putting them next to each other just makes the changes even more noticeable. I've already detailed my gripes with the changes to the mouth (face 2, mouth 3 for reference) so I won't bother repeating myself, since I think the pictures more than speak for themselves.

[TacetCat]

I finally bothered making a forum account after 8 years just to post in this thread. They really messed up female midlander face 1. These aren't the best screenshots (especially the 6.5 one), but I hope they speak for themselves regardless. To quote my friend, she looks like she was passed through a horror filter.

On the other hand, my miqo'te came out looking more or less fine. Eyes look a bit big and there are dimples now for some reason, but she still has the same overall look and feel of the pre-update version and I recognize it as the same character. Problem is, I swapped off that miqo because I couldn't take the tail clipping through everything anymore. Four months later, and I realize that I'm not happy with it all over again. Female midlander is the best fit, but I don't want to use the character I got attached to in EW (and an expy of my all time favorite D&D character) if that's what she's supposed to look like now. So, once again I'm making another new character, but there's no attachment to them or their story, which really sucks.

edit: I should clarify, these are 6.58 and 7.0, respectively. When I use the fantasia they gave us I'll probably load this preset so I can use the hairstyle and get a shot to compare the 7.1 changes.

[Kaziek]

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It certainly can't hurt for more players to give feedback, especially since F Midlander Face 1 players seem to be on the same page with issues (all of your points and more have been expressed by myself and others earlier in this thread). But at this point I don't really expect much. 7.1 changed next to nothing, and I get the feeling that we will see less and less about this as time goes on. Best to temper expectations and be pleasantly surprised if they happen to actually come through with some nice fixes.

[noumen0nn]

F Midlander face 1, in my humble opinion, was by far the biggest loser of the graphics update. Not a single feature was transferred over properly, and we lost our face impression completely. It's so bad that it's the reverse of a lot of other faces--rather than looking closely to see the differences, the differences become clearer the less closely you look. I'm serious, squint and look at some of the examples posted above, and it will look even more like a completely different person.

(This isn't to say other faces didn't also get destroyed in the update, I just wanted to point out how uniquely "wrong" this face is in terms of overall impression)

[Tahli]

Yess make that thread if you want i will support it^-^
And also the icon picture still having the old brows baffles me, and they looked so much better before. Some changes made in this update was so wierd. Sadness :c

Alright, it's been made.

There was one line in the official response to player feedback about that said, "Most feedback received on eyelashes and eyebrows falls into the previous category, but we've found that many players are satisfied with the current resolution and shapes. Therefore, we will take caution when proceeding with adjustments." I really wonder if Miqo Face 2 was lumped into that, and do most people really prefer the hard-line eyebrows over any of the earlier versions? Hoping to find out.

[glitteringcosmos]

I'm so mad about how they keep saying "everyone is happy with the eyebrows" lmao literally who??? They're so bad, and every single support ticket submitted keeps getting pushed into "working as intended." I really, REALLY wish there was a toggle to just disable all character-related graphical updates, because they've dropped the ball across the board with their promise to "remain as faithful to the original look as possible." The jump from 1.0 to 2.0 was more faithful than this.

[glitteringcosmos]

Yeah, at the very beginning of this whole process we were promised this (models are the same, only shaders/textures have been improved):

https://youtu.be/18-F5uAyRgw?t=424

Imagine if they had stuck to this plan. (Or rather, don't. You'll just get sad.)


(Yes, I've posted this before but I'll bring it up again and again out of pure pettiness to remind SE how they messed up.)

THIS SO MUCH. I was AT the NA fanfest when they announced this, and this is what I was so hyped for. Not whatever the hell mess we got.

[Shyllen]

I come here as a source of positivity, I'm really happy with the graphics update and I love some the changes a lot (especially the changes to face 2 female au ra), I love that my mouth no longer looks like I'm trying to keep water from spilling out and the changes to the eyes that make them no longer look like reflective stickers.

I think increasing the amount of polygons on faces will inevitably move certain features slightly and the devs did an overall good job at keeping each face easily recognizable while improving some things, as someone with multiple alts I really like the changes to all my characters ! Cheers !