Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Rikizza]

Thank you! Sometimes I feel crazy being one of the few people talking about this when those eyebrow changes are just so, SO extreme...

I don't know, should I start a thread petitioning specifically for a change to Face 2's eyebrows? If it really is intentional, they won't change it unless enough people speak up saying they don't like it.


Even the CC icon of the face option still has a curve and a softness to it...

Yess make that thread if you want i will support it^-^
And also the icon picture still having the old brows baffles me, and they looked so much better before. Some changes made in this update was so wierd. Sadness :c

[MediocreIndigo]

Just now, I noticed something weird with the mouth on face 2 female Au Ra. Under specific lighting (like inside an inn room), the shape of the mouth looks like it did before the graphics update, but in other lighting, it looks different. What's up with that? I'd like it if it looked like the old shape all the time.

[Argantaelle]

I have a feeling that they did correct smiles to some extent; it seems like they put the corners of the mouth when smiling a little bit lower. Some of my friends noticed that smiles improved for many race/gender combinations.

[Router]

I am once again posting a JP Midlander Face 1 comparison pic. Credits to the person on the JP forum who originally posted it.

EW on the left, DT 7.1 on the right. Should speak for itself...

[Luluna]

I feel they may have done a few little tweaks in the new patch but the Midlander faces are so far from what they where it is sad Face one used to be my fave and I liked face 2 as she had a lovely mouth, now face 1 is mad staring and the eye bags are still there and her mouth makes her look angry and her nose squashed. The mouths look rubbery and the lip colours are hard to make a nice red pink without it looking beige.

[Aco505]

They should just add new tweaks as options in the character creator. At this point, it is clear that the graphical update should've been done alongside an expansion of the former. And it's not like the graphical update was all-encompassing considering, for instance, the stark difference between the newest DT haircuts and the old ones (not the 7.1 one) or how we still have low resolution painting/male miqo'te markings or blemishes on the sides of the face of the characters.

[Feina]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Female face-1 for Midlanders were really badly done to be honest. Everything from heavy bags under the eyes, nose/lip shapes have changed entirely, the skin taking on a doll-like doughy texture. Even in some cases the makeup additions were quite off, either darks being too dark, and then lights being overly bright/shiny. The eye's also seem to be 50/50, either they've come out really well for new colour shading, or they look uncanny. But other face types like 5 seem to have come out pretty nice :/

I don't have any comparison pics, but the below is what my pre-DT midlander looked like under different light sources - pretty sad what the new graphical updates did!

[Khryseis_Astra]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Female face-1 for Midlanders were really badly done to be honest. Everything from heavy bags under the eyes, nose/lip shapes have changed entirely, the skin taking on a doll-like doughy texture. Even in some cases the makeup additions were quite off, either darks being too dark, and then lights being overly bright/shiny. The eye's also seem to be 50/50, either they've come out really well for new colour shading, or they look uncanny. But other face types like 5 seem to have come out pretty nice :/

One of my characters is a Face 1 Midlander too. What they’ve done to lips across the board is just awful, but the Hyurs’ (both Middie and Highlander) pouty lips options have been totally destroyed.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Posted in another thread, but just in case this is the only one being watched by the devs, this is my EW vs. 7.1 comparison with gpose, rather than just portraits…

Doesn’t look like they made any real changes to her. The brows are wrong, the bridge of the nose doesn’t curve, the tip of the original was upturned while the new one isn’t, the eyeballs aren’t in the same place making the eyes in general look weirdly hooded, the jawline is a totally different shape, and her pouty lips had their Cupid’s bow curves practically reduced to points.

[LisseyCrowe]

I am once again posting a JP Midlander Face 1 comparison pic. Credits to the person on the JP forum who originally posted it.

EW on the left, DT 7.1 on the right. Should speak for itself...

Face 1 Middie here. I wasn't sure if I should post any pictures as I don't have any good ones, and I also felt like others were more articulate and explaining why the changes were bad, but I feel like these pictures show really well what I've been feeling.

1. Thinner eyeliner, somewhat replaced by a weird shaded area.
2. Outer eye looks off, on the left you can see that from the bottom of the iris to the corner is a more pronounced curve than on the right.
3. Harder to see here, but the mouth has a more neutral expression at base.
(4. Cheeks seem a tinge puffier, but might be the lighting.)
(5. I don't like how much the model on the right pops out of the background compared to on the left? I don't know how else to describe this.)

To be honest all those changes are very minor on their own and I understand anyone who doesn't see it. Even for me it took a while to identify things and I'm probably still missing quite a few. But what has been felt from the beginning is that my character just feels less determined. Together, these changes made it so that my character's expression has gone from a quiet confidence to looking at bit vapid at neutral. A lot of times it feels like my character is barely "there" until the cut-scene projects an emotion on them, and not all of them aged well either.

I don't know if this was useful or not, but maybe that's not as important as simply having more feedback out there.