Every time a new glam set is added where Veira and Hrothgar cannot wear headgear-

[Wolwosh]

I removed all of my hats (because I've lost all hope at that point it will ever get fixed) and had to craft/salvage all of them again for the new glamour set storage function.
Now I can stare at all the hats AGAIN that I will never will be able to wear
If they're going to commit to not fixing it at least give Viera's and Hroths the function of storing glamour sets excluding the headpiece haha

[Kunzite_Lockhart]

Come on, guys, you’ve got to understand—it’s a small indie company. They don’t have the time, resources, or money to fix Viera hats. It’s beyond fixing for them.
But somehow, they still find time for useless stuff no one asked for.

[Wolwosh]

Come on, guys, you’ve got to understand—it’s a small indie company. They don’t have the time, resources, or money to fix Viera hats. It’s beyond fixing for them.
But somehow, they still find time for useless stuff no one asked for.

You mean mahjong voices? Very important indeed

[Aco505]

The fact that this hasn't been addressed in five years, and that even the hats for other races with specific racial attributes such as miqo'te tend to hide their ears (and sometimes tails for specific chest pieces) is difficult to understand. Why don't the ears show for the new PvP series rank 25 reward? Why is it that the number of suitable hats that should show the ears but don't is so high?

Gear should be designed with all the races in mind, and not just hyur.

[Keumjo]

Adding my support.

Bare minimum:
We deserve access to hairstyles we paid for.
We deserve the promised unique hairstyles promised for lack of hats OR start letting us wear hats.
We deserve access to the hats that are a part of sets we paid for.
We deserve access to hats that were bonus items from purchased physical items (Matoya's Hat).
We deserve access to in-game holiday reward hats.
We deserve access to Artifact Armor hats.

I'm not even asking for all hats to work, those above are the ones we absolutely need access to.
RDM/BLM have massive job identity tied to their hats. That's part of the history of the job. I want to wear those hats.

It's not about clipping so stop saying it's about clipping, if you cared about clipping at all, we wouldn't be rife with it already.
5 years later and your pleading for patience will get you no soap.

You cannot in good conscience, pat yourselves on the back for maintaining brand identity with this game when you willingly continue to not address that a fair number of your player base is getting charged the same for less content.

If you cannot give us the content we have paid for and actively pay for, we deserve a discount on our monthly subs and off all purchases on the mogstation that include hats we can't wear. I bought some of these sets before these races were introduced, you had no small print saying I wouldn't be able to wear them then. Refunds or make them work in-game, have some g*ddamn respect for the people funding your company.

[Mahou-Shoujo]

Adding my support.

Bare minimum:
We deserve access to hairstyles we paid for.
We deserve the promised unique hairstyles promised for lack of hats OR start letting us wear hats.
We deserve access to the hats that are a part of sets we paid for.
We deserve access to hats that were bonus items from purchased physical items (Matoya's Hat).
We deserve access to in-game holiday reward hats.
We deserve access to Artifact Armor hats.

I'm not even asking for all hats to work, those above are the ones we absolutely need access to.
RDM/BLM have massive job identity tied to their hats. That's part of the history of the job. I want to wear those hats.

It's not about clipping so stop saying it's about clipping, if you cared about clipping at all, we wouldn't be rife with it already.
5 years later and your pleading for patience will get you no soap.

You cannot in good conscience, pat yourselves on the back for maintaining brand identity with this game when you willingly continue to not address that a fair number of your player base is getting charged the same for less content.

If you cannot give us the content we have paid for and actively pay for, we deserve a discount on our monthly subs and off all purchases on the mogstation that include hats we can't wear. I bought some of these sets before these races were introduced, you had no small print saying I wouldn't be able to wear them then. Refunds or make them work in-game, have some g*ddamn respect for the people funding your company.

This 100%.

It's not hard to do, modders have done this already, we're not even asking for the same attention to detail that modders have put in with extra ear hole textures etc.

[lucatracy]

Honestly insane to me that male viera and female hrothgar, two races that were made after the initial fviera/mhroth "sorry, technical limitation" debacle, still can't wear hats. If their development was completely separate from the other gender, why do they have these same limitations? We were told female hrothgar would have to wait their turn after male viera because they wanted to spend more time on them instead of released and rushed together (not direct quote, it's been years so I don't remember by heart lmao), what the hell was all that time spent on if nothing was actually going to be improved?

It took viera and hrothgar three expansions for them to be an actual completed race with both genders, yet mviera and femhroth still have these so-called "limitations" when there's quite literally no reason for them to. They were developed separately, they had plenty of time to figure this out, at this point I just believe they're either lazy and didn't feel like it, or they purposefully left hats out to keep it fair for their predecessors.

[Mahou-Shoujo]

Honestly insane to me that male viera and female hrothgar, two races that were made after the initial fviera/mhroth "sorry, technical limitation" debacle, still can't wear hats. If their development was completely separate from the other gender, why do they have these same limitations? We were told female hrothgar would have to wait their turn after male viera because they wanted to spend more time on them instead of released and rushed together (not direct quote, it's been years so I don't remember by heart lmao), what the hell was all that time spent on if nothing was actually going to be improved?

It took viera and hrothgar three expansions for them to be an actual completed race with both genders, yet mviera and femhroth still have these so-called "limitations" when there's quite literally no reason for them to. They were developed separately, they had plenty of time to figure this out, at this point I just believe they're either lazy and didn't feel like it, or they purposefully left hats out to keep it fair for their predecessors.

With the graphics update, the head morphs were unified, so there's legit no reason there.

The only thing holding them back is that the racial hair doesn't have the squished version for wearing hats.

Which is a very quick fix.

Modders have done this, I AM ABLE TO DO THIS. There are no limitations or spaghetti code reasons.

It's pure laziness.

[Mahou-Shoujo]

I understand there are technical limitations related how these particular races work, but they've had years to work on it.

My hope was it was going to be part of the graphical update, and they didn't want to do the work twice... but instead we get a Fanfest where they kept going on and on about how hard they worked on a lalafell's face.

Modders fixed the so-called limitations.

7.1 made the heads unified morphs.

It's bs

[BurningSoul]

I will post my complaints about it to this thread. I am aware that once again, despite the fact I am paying the same sub fee as everyone else. I am getting access to less because of the race I play and I am not being compensated for it in any other way.

Before any or the usual rebuttals or excuses inevitably show up, I promise you I have heard and read them before. This is yet another thread expressing my disappointment and frustrations that this has yet to be addressed outside of shrinking certain hats or simply moving away from them in recent gear sets.

CBU3 please be aware we are very much aware of the smokescreen every time anyone posts new glam/armor photos in the shop or promotional material that don't feature Viera or Hrothgar and/or don't feature any new headgear on them that other races are wearing without any modifications (Fallguys).

After so many years on behalf of players that genuinely love and appreciate this race. I ask for compensation via unique headgear, unique hairstyles (since some have already been given to other npcs in the game of different races), or small incremental additions of old headgear being wearable during patch cycles.

At minimum, make unique headgear for the races and make new players aware of the limitations before they pick that race to start the game before they suffer the slow burning disappointment as I went through ARR through EW as I remained dedicated to my Viera and realized that no additional support in the mentioned areas seem to be being made. Dawntrail was partially sold on the addition of putting hats and eyewear together. Much to my shock and dismay there aren't many hats/headgear we can actually test this with.

Fellow players, feel free to voice your opinions and additional concerns with Viera and Hrothgar. I will keep this thread alive alone or we can do it together until action is taken. I am tired of saying nothing. If there was development time to address the state of feet in the game there is for this issue in the foreseeable future.

Thank you CBU3 I love and appreciate all you do for this community despite what I may say each time this occurs.

I know I originally said I would wait, but I can't get over the fact that they keep openly introducing gear that isn't fully accessible. This pvp set was just added in 7.1. The hats are probably one of the best things about sets like this and they keep introducing them with these limitations. Let me be clear that I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad for wearing them, but reminding the dev team that this has reached a point of unacceptability by not addressing or delivering what was promised years ago.