The Great FFXIV Exodus of 2024

[Supersnow845]

To be honest this is just a bubble of perpetually being angry at the game and hanging out here too long. I go into the game and ask about people's feelings about the game and they're just a neutral "It's fine". That's the general vibe of people playing DT.

I came here to voice my disdain for Endwalker and it's game design. About DT's stale story and content structure, and I agree with a lot of the disatisfaction that the forums reflect, but our opinion here barely matters when 90% of the community really doesn't care about the way things are going, they log in, they do their roulettes, dailies and savage weeklies, and log out.

I mean I was more referring to yoshi p’s own words about how a player who still cares enough to complain is more valuable than one that silently quits but how is your “vibe check” in game any more accurate than social media, if anything your sample size is even smaller

[CNitsah]

To be honest this is just a bubble of perpetually being angry at the game and hanging out here too long. I go into the game and ask about people's feelings about the game and they're just a neutral "It's fine". That's the general vibe of people playing DT.

Yeah, no, I'm sorry, but when I look around myself, it's the opposite, apart from one or two hardcore fans, everyone is bored to death. I even have casual players around me wondering if they won't will suspend their sub, but still hesitate because how they are attached to the game. I also have players that liked DT react like this.

So no, don't generalize on your experience. Especially pulling out some "90% of the commuty does X" out of nowhere.

[LittleArrow]

For everyone saying, don't care / not the game for you / it's good to take breaks - I want you to know, you're part of the problem. I'm not saying you have to care or fight / convince people to stay, but encouraging any part of the PAYING playerbase to drop their sub is astronomically shortsighted and detrimental to this game. FFXIV is NOT too big to fail, and considering all the longterm complaints stacked with the extremely divisive reception of this expansion ONTOP of the ridiculous patch schedule, 100% this game can fail. So, please stop it.

I absolutely empathize with players' frustration and desire to quit. I'm so incredibly disappointed and downright angry at Yoshi and this awful dev team. They have no idea what they're doing and they're so disconnected from the starry eyed devs that drug this game out of the grave years ago.

To the OP, my thoughts on players quitting - I'm not surprised and it saddens me but very well deserved. I truly hope it is a representation of the silent majority, not because I want the game to fail, but because there is a serious rot of complacency at SE that was the beginning death of that company. The only thing that will cause action is them losing money.

Also, as a sidenote, FFXIV should not win 1 game award this year. I saw Best Community Support and I laughed. Not only has XIV this year added taxes to their subs instead of eating the cost, they have 1 of the if not the absolute worst customer services I've experienced in almost any MMO I've played. There has been ZERO dev presence in these forums for almost a decade, and none of the major concerns or scandals brought up has been addressed or quietly acknowledged (despite past patterns of them doing so). FFXIV is NOT in a good place. I haven't played the game since mid-August, but I had already paid my 6month sub. It's shame the state the game is in.

[ShadowNyx3]

I wouldn't presume my personal experience is indicative of the larger feeling right now, but while I don't know anyone who has quit and know plenty of people who play every day for many hours, the general vibes and opinions of the people in my circle are as negative as they've ever been towards Yoshi P and the game's direction.

I think the only way you're gonna know for sure is by looking at player data and make an inference from that because we will never see the financials.

[Shialan]

Who uses forum users to gauge interest in the game? If we would go by them, this game would have been dead 1 week after ARR launch.

[LittleArrow]

Everybody knows that the vast majority of people on the forum have been complaining about the games for years and it was just a matter of time for some to leave.
Party finder still looks as healthy as usual, especially for an odd numbered patch.

I want to push back on this. I see your join date was 2014, so I respect where you're coming from in terms of experiencing these forums longterm. However, I have never seen such an uproar and consistent critical take on this game since 1.x. Even Stormblood and the raid scene back in Heavensward (which nearly killed the game) wasn't as loud, consistent, or broad as it is since DT.

Has there been criticism, even very loud criticism, yes. Then the devs would respond. They'd nerf raids, buff jobs, show a timeline in how they were going to fix it, or quietly push Lyse to the background. There has been none of that. The dev team I've literally grown with for over 10yrs isn't here anymore and it shows. This isn't like it was 5, 10, 12yrs ago. I've never seen Yoshi more checked out than I have since the end of Endwalker. Also, there isn't just one problem (this job is dead / this raid is too hard or easy / relic grind is too hard), it's multiple problems compounding each other.

Most of the history of these forums there have been pushback to negativity towards this game. I know, because I was one of the whiteknights that would jump in and try to quiet the rabble because I was so loyal to Yoshi and how well he treated the XIV fanbase. That's not happening anymore. Thankfully, I don't see the absolute hatefulness I read in other forums, but the feedback isn't good across the board.

[RaideDuku]

Nah. Quit. And if the game dies:



My life doesn't revolve around FFXIV. If it gets shut down, or the quality goes down to a point where I don't care to play anymore, then I'll quit. Right there and then. Not hang out for another year or two to see if gets better and whine on the boards all the while. Happy of the good times the game give, but not dwell on its loss as there are many other games to play that I will have fun with.

I have played 5 other MMOs a significant period of time, and then quit them when I decided I was no longer having fun. No scathing final post. No Reddit/Twitter/Board meltdown. Just leave. When FFXIV gets to that point, it will be the 6th long term MMO I will have quit, and I have become exceedingly efficient at it.

Maybe others should do the same.

[LittleArrow]

Nah. Quit. And if the game dies:



My life doesn't revolve around FFXIV. If it gets shut down, or the quality goes down to a point where I don't care to play anymore, then I'll quit. Right there and then. Not hang out for another year or two to see if gets better and whine on the boards all the while. Happy of the good times the game give, but not dwell on its loss as there are many other games to play that I will have fun with.

I have played 5 other MMOs a significant period of time, and then quit them when I decided I was no longer having fun. No scathing final post. No Reddit/Twitter/Board meltdown. Just leave. When FFXIV gets to that point, it will be the 6th long term MMO I will have quit, and I have become exceedingly efficient at it.

Maybe others should do the same.

Good for you to have that attitude. If you're not invested, I don't think anyone is asking for you to be invested. Also, to point out people whining on a forum.. while also whining about people whining on a forum.. is well, I don't know if you heard that saying about the pot and the kettle.

There are those of us that are invested. There are those of us that have be apart of this game for over a decade and WANT it to succeed. There are those of us that care about the game being a good experience, have a healthy playerbase, and caring enough to come to post on the forums isn't at all whining. Seriously, people posting critical feedback is just as much whining as a voter using their vote to change or support their government.

Again, I respect you ability to feel comfortable to just shut off any attachment to a product you've used for years. However, no respect for judging others for caring about something they've literally invested years of their life, met their spouse, started a family from, or found their lifelong friends in.

[Kohashi]

Game exodus no, much quieter forums yes weeeeeeeee ;D.

[Boblawblah]

Nah. Quit. And if the game dies:



My life doesn't revolve around FFXIV. If it gets shut down, or the quality goes down to a point where I don't care to play anymore, then I'll quit. Right there and then. Not hang out for another year or two to see if gets better and whine on the boards all the while. Happy of the good times the game give, but not dwell on its loss as there are many other games to play that I will have fun with.

I have played 5 other MMOs a significant period of time, and then quit them when I decided I was no longer having fun. No scathing final post. No Reddit/Twitter/Board meltdown. Just leave. When FFXIV gets to that point, it will be the 6th long term MMO I will have quit, and I have become exceedingly efficient at it.

Maybe others should do the same.

Agreed. Refusing to stop supporting something that you don't like because you're afraid it's going to really die is sad. SE isn't your friend, all they understand is money. If they're incompetent enough to ignore players leaving, that's on them.