ToS rules for Party Finder?

[TankerTanker]

Ah, found it: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...=68216&id=5382

Thanks for that. I think people violate this without realizing it. Basically Square Enix seems to blanket statement it similar to how they do with mods. according to this it's against the rules to put up a C41 in PF for my friend when they are ready to clear a fight, but not against the rules for them to host the PF as C41. Even though there is no exchange of rewards for the clear either way. One is against the ToS on a technicality and the other is not. Obviously Square Enix will probably use their discretion to determine who is or is not violating the rules, but it's better off not left to chance.

[Kaecilius]

Thanks for that. I think people violate this without realizing it. Basically Square Enix seems to blanket statement it similar to how they do with mods. according to this it's against the rules to put up a C41 in PF for my friend when they are ready to help clear a fight, but not against the rules for them to host the PF as C41. Even though there is no exchange of rewards for the clear either way. One is against the ToS on a technicality and the other is not. Obviously Square Enix will probably use their discretion to determine who is or is not violating the rules, but it's better off not left to chance.

If it helps, the only time I've ever seen people get in trouble for C41 is back when everyone was bored at the end of Endwalker so Ultimate Raiders were repeatedly putting up C41 parties offering to help random people clear Ultimates. Never seen a violation for "C41 for my buddy who is already in the party"

[TankerTanker]

If it helps, the only time I've ever seen people get in trouble for C41 is back when everyone was bored at the end of Endwalker so Ultimate Raiders were repeatedly putting up C41 parties offering to help random people clear Ultimates. Never seen a violation for "C41 for my buddy who is already in the party"

Yeah, that's actually how I found out about it. I was helping someone clear UCoB(Just me and them), and someone messaged me letting me know it was against the ToS. Basically I believe Square Enix is trying to battle RMT with the rule, because they have no way of knowing that I was just helping a friend and not accepting some kind of reward out of game. I obviously haven't done it since, it's just not worth the risk.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Yeah, that's actually how I found out about it. I was helping someone clear UCoB(Just me and them), and someone messaged me letting me know it was against the ToS. Basically I believe Square Enix is trying to battle RMT with the rule, because they have no way of knowing that I was just helping a friend and not accepting some kind of reward out of game. I obviously haven't done it since, it's just not worth the risk.

Yeah in your case that was honestly just a "Kill for friend" party. Also I think the guy who said "its against TOS" is genuinely overblowing this a bit. Also C41 for others could just be interpreted differently - or god knows, could just call it "Need help clearing this" without explaining for whom.

People like that guy are genuinely just party poopers.