7.1 MSQ Is Actually Pretty Funny If You Think About It

[Daralii]

I just wanna know why daddy issues are so prevalent in storylines Hiroi writes or oversees.

[KageTokage]

I wasn't expecting anything from 7.1's story/writing but it still would've been nice to be offered something of substance outside of the last moments.

Teeshal Ja: "Look at this baby."
Zoraal Ja: "It looks kind of like me"
Teeshal Ja: "He's our son."
Zoraal Ja: "WHAT?! How did that happen?
Teeshal Ja: "Did . . . did no one tell you how babies are made?"
Zoraal Ja: "I can't be a father for some reason! AGH, I'm going insane or something. I'm going to go get some milk!"

10/10 writing there. Really makes me glad that this guy was a serious villain at some point.

I took that more as him assuming that he wouldn't be able to have children considering he himself was already considered a "miracle" since two-headed/hybrid Mamool Ja were believed to be sterile.

Not to say it wasn't goofy regardless.

[Regis_Paran]

If memory serves Koana mentioned something about WL being abandoed by her parents - *like him* (which supposedly made him want to bond with her).
Of course, we know from 7.0 that WL was not, in fact abandoned at all. On the contrary. But let's say the tiny foundation was there.

Still, the resolution to his issue is laughably fast. The same with the train. It's like writers went through some check list for matters to solve and it didn't matter *how*, it was only important that it was done.

I facepalmed so many times during 7.1... From the invitation to the funeral (small mercy I could even reply that it's inapproppriate), to Gulool Ja becoming a tech wiz kid to Koana deciding to die for a single cow to Sphene double "rebirth"...
Holy hell... I think I'll replay 5.1-5.3. I need a palate cleanser.

[Zaniel]

All the segments inside Solution 9 certainly made me dislike the Alexandrians more and more. They are all simply petulant, incompetent children in adult bodies (admittedly not their fault). It makes it impossible to take them seriously, they are too simple minded to be a credible threat and too pathetic and irresponsible to empathise with, you can't feel bad for them because of how vile(?) and dependent their society is. From a writing hook perspective I suspect most people just want to leave them and never see their society again. Which is not great from the angle of trying to build up some sort of narrative tension or interest in your world building.

[Carin-Eri]

Lizard lady wanting a baby in her to the point of creating scientific monstrosities for a chance at a booty call isn't too far off course for FFXIV, especially when you consider Y'shtola's whole motivation for researching cross-shard travel is because she's thirsty for a Ronso guy in The First.

A little off-topic, I know - but I really don't get why anyone would think that.

I mean, granted he was affectionate toward her and there it was somewhat implied that he might have had romantic feelings toward her - but I don't recall anything that specifically indicated that she reciprocated those feelings.
So whilst there is little doubt that she'd like to see him again, I really don't think it'll have anything to do with them forming a relationship.

And that aside - looking from the meta perspective, the writers are NEVER going to have a significant NPC enter a relationship with another for various reasons.

[Mainasu]

All the segments inside Solution 9 certainly made me dislike the Alexandrians more and more. They are all simply petulant, incompetent children in adult bodies (admittedly not their fault). It makes it impossible to take them seriously, they are too simple minded to be a credible threat and too pathetic and irresponsible to empathise with, you can't feel bad for them because of how vile(?) and dependent their society is. From a writing hook perspective I suspect most people just want to leave them and never see their society again. Which is not great from the angle of trying to build up some sort of narrative tension or interest in your world building.

I've had the same thoughts. They made these people too alien, too inhuman, for me to care about them. It's astounding when the same game has literal Dragons that act more human than the Alexandrians, and I can sympathize with their plight way more than "Oh no, death means people don't come back! We have to REMEMBER it happened too?! Awwwwwwwwwwww!!!!"

I should not be rooting for the villain to make something horrible happen to this place and its people, just because there's the CHANCE it might make it actually interesting, but here we are.

[glassflower]

Been a bit since doing the MSQ, of course, but I seem to recall it was one of the places (that we get more with Koana than anyone) where they showed instead of telling us. I don't think he came out and said the words but his body language and the phrasing used in what he did say conveyed the feeling. For as little as we saw him in he MSQ, Koana has always felt like one of the better fleshed out characters. He had character growth and we saw that growth come into play here when we worked on a solution that wasn't just shoving tech at the problem but figuring out how tech could work hand in hand with tradition.

at least someone on the forums still has a working brain

[Nero-Voidstails]

I am just sad we didn't get more... side content because legit the alliance raid is the most interesting we got in this patch like the story was good until you learn how the omg I forgot his name already... the little blue lizard learn his birth it was legit crap not gonna lie

[Talael]

A little off-topic, I know - but I really don't get why anyone would think that.

I mean, granted he was affectionate toward her and there it was somewhat implied that he might have had romantic feelings toward her - but I don't recall anything that specifically indicated that she reciprocated those feelings.
So whilst there is little doubt that she'd like to see him again, I really don't think it'll have anything to do with them forming a relationship.

And that aside - looking from the meta perspective, the writers are NEVER going to have a significant NPC enter a relationship with another for various reasons.

Kinda off topic i guess, but your signature makes me nostalgic of when the story was good. Now we have shitty plots like Dawntrail, when we were eating good at SB finale and Shadowbringers. ;-;

[EchoingPulse]

I've had the same thoughts. They made these people too alien, too inhuman, for me to care about them. It's astounding when the same game has literal Dragons that act more human than the Alexandrians, and I can sympathize with their plight way more than "Oh no, death means people don't come back! We have to REMEMBER it happened too?! Awwwwwwwwwwww!!!!"

I should not be rooting for the villain to make something horrible happen to this place and its people, just because there's the CHANCE it might make it actually interesting, but here we are.

Amen to this.
I still sympathize with the Dragons of Heavensward more than the Alexandrians. Those creatures that are SO SCARED of dying that they use SOULS to give themselves extra lives. And wonder why children born are either sickly or have reduced birthrates.
Burn the entire society to smoke and ash I say.

On that note. I do like how those Alexandrians who leave the doom are struggling to live within Eorzea and experiencing actual stress, such as being unable to use simple magic or start a fire. And people are actively trying to help them.
I do find that tasteful from a writing standpoint---Not everything is perfect.