Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
Based on the majority of the games out there.
edit: also, this. Water being opposite of Fire makes more sense than Wind anyway.

They might have had different rules, but base element relationships were never twisted as they are in FFXIV - I'd remember that.
I don't care if it was fire <-> ice | lightning <-> water or fire -> ice -> lightning -> water -> fire
But going wind -> fire is ridiculous. Speaking of realism: why do you think we fear the wind when there are fires around?

No, it won't. I played this game since alpha and I still have to keep the elemental wheel chart open. They tried to be different for the sake of being different, and you see where it got them. They're fixing the things with 2.0, so they might as well fix this too.
Oh my god this is literally real life Idiocracy.

Did you read that Wikipedia article you linked? The only culture that had any kind of cycle in the elements was ancient Chinese, and even that one was nothing like any of the FF elemental strengths and weaknesses. This entire discussion is about the elemental wheel, and not the elements themselves. And there is no standard of what an elemental wheel should be. It's made up on the spot, in any game, because it's fantasy.

Going Wind > Fire is not ridiculous because this is all made up bulls**t. Can you get that through your head? None of this is real. Whatever reasoning for it exists in the game now (which it does) is sufficient. The fact that you don't think it's a good fit or that it's ridiculous is a testament to the fact that you have preconceived notions from other games' equally made up bulls**t about what an 'elemental wheel' should be.

The fact that you're bringing real life arguments into this is completely irrelevant. A strong wind will snuff out a weaker fire, a strong fire will be spread by wind or will suffocate it, throwing water on a grease fire will intensify it, boiling water will evaporate it, throwing dirt on fire will extinguish it, fire can melt rock into lava. You can make a case for literally anything if you start bringing real life examples because there is no such thing as an elemental wheel or cycle in real life.