Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Iscah]

So looking around at NPCs and other player characters, all the miqote seem to have enlarged lips in this patch for some reason? I've also seen some female midlanders were hit by the issue too.

My gut feeling for face 3 Midlander was that her mouth looked less wide, though the same width and vertically thicker might give the same impression. I'll have to compare more closely later.

[Solazz]

I'm at work now, but had a couple minutes this morning to check my character's face out. I'll edit this with a pic later, but I can definitely side with Joralia that au ra limbal rings are insanely bright suddenly.

I'm a face 4 xaela female that had a soft red glow that's now neon pink.

[Astronis]

Well, I'm not happy. The change is very very subtle, and if this is what I had gotten with the first update originally, I wouldn't have been unhappy. But that's not what happened. What happened is I got to get used to something I liked very very much, and then had that positive change taken away. It's extremely subtle, I'll get used to it, but I will not forgive the people screeching about eyelashes for the fact that it happened.

Take care, I'm out. Hope you guys got what you wanted.

[Cyrtip]

(snip) why are the limbal rings so bright now?

(snip) au ra limbal rings are insanely bright suddenly

I know that in 7.0 limbal rings became obnoxiously bright at night and invisible during the day.
Personally, I only checked to see if they were back to not glowing at night, because that's what time it was in-game when I logged in.

Making them obnoxiously drown out what little pupil color we still have with our dilated 7.0 Au Ra eyes, both in day and night, seems like a great way to disappoint everyone...
Hopefully, if the limbal glow is now actually consistent regardless of time of day/light sources (will have to check), we can just pick a darker color, but there's only so many colors in the game's limited palette.

[Neytirhi]

4. Light-haired eyebrows (all faces).
They are still transparent.

face 1

face 4

Same problem with Keeper of the Moon face 4 female Miqo'te sadly. It even lacks color itself, like it's very greyish for every light hair color.
I still look eyebrowless and I just don't want to play the game looking like that...

EW :




DT :





Also notice how the smirk looks absolutely stupid now (yes, those are supposed to be the very same face emote... yeah...), but that I could ignore compared to the eyebrows...

But since that's an issue for less people, they just ignore it, even though it looks absolutely awful. And obv in Japan that must be very niche... dark skin light & hair, right...

[noumen0nn]

Four months. Let's tally up the adjustments that took you four months:

• very slight adjustment to the eyeliner facial feature, still not nearly as dark as it was in 6.0, and still only dark just above the upper eyelid instead of covering the whole eyelid
• nigh-imperceptible adjustment to the eyebrow shape in terms of vertical thickness, with no adjustments to hair thickness or overall shape
• normal map of the philtrum has been adjusted to make it less thin and deep. It is still thinner than in 6.0 and still doesn't widen toward the lip like it should.
• shadow under the lower lip has been restored to its pre-7.0 shape, at the cost of making the lower lip bigger for no apparent reason.
  
  Using ReShade's display depth filter, I have confirmed that not a single adjustment to the geometry of the face has been made.
  
  7.0 on the left, 7.1 on the right
  

THIS took you four months? To anyone on the FFXIV team reading this message, I want you to know from the bottom of my heart: You should be ashamed of yourselves. I have completely lost faith in your ability to right your wrongs, and I'm sure that we can count on the 7.2 adjustments being just as insubstantial. I guess I'm just never getting my character back. I hope that the art team reads every single heartbroken message in this forum, and knows that you have failed us.

edit: going into the in-game lighting, it's also apparent that you didn't actually adjust the under-eye bags. Great job.

[Doopliss]

It's extremely subtle, I'll get used to it, but I will not forgive the people screeching about eyelashes for the fact that it happened.

Take care, I'm out. Hope you guys got what you wanted.

Nobody was 'screeching' about that. If you really care about how others feel, too, you wouldn't be antagonizing them with exaggerated word choice. I'm sorry for what you're now also going through, and I hope that you can still enjoy your character, but most people who are upset had way more major changes than just...eyelash adjustment.

So, more like welcome to the club, I guess. And I'm sorry you're in it. The changes they did in this patch seem to be of a completely random, subtle variety, and they outright didn't touch any faces that did actually possess major geometrical changes.

I know that in 7.0 limbal rings became obnoxiously bright at night and invisible during the day.
Personally, I only checked to see if they were back to not glowing at night, because that's what time it was in-game when I logged in.

Making them obnoxiously drown out what little pupil color we still have with our dilated 7.0 Au Ra eyes, both in day and night, seems like a great way to disappoint everyone...
Hopefully, if the limbal glow is now actually consistent regardless of time of day/light sources (will have to check), we can just pick a darker color, but there's only so many colors in the game's limited palette.

Ohhh my god. Speaking of completely random; why did they do this? This is way too over-tuned.

The initial 7.0 change didn't look like the original color I picked for her, but neither does whatever this is. She is supposed to have the darkest grey option possible--as in, the literal last option before you reach outright black--so why does it look outright white in even the daytime now!?

[sleepystaccato]

limbal rings are WAAAAAAAY too bright during the day now, even on the two darkest shades of this color. they also don't really glow at all at night despite how bright they are during the day time. i picked a dark color because i didn't want them to glow and just be more of an enhancement to my iris color but now it seems i have no choice even on the darkest setting.
(2nd darkest color) (darkest color)
(darkest color, night)

[Alice9]

Why is it so hard to give us back the characters we knew and loved? You know, the characters that were already in the game for a decade? Time and time again droves of feedback pour in detailing exactly what people want from the very first benchmark- and guess what? It's for our characters to look the same as they always did, because why would anyone on Earth want anything else? How is it this difficult? Are all the terrible changes really to "spec"? Square has completely gutted Au Ra faces. It is practically an insult at this point. It borders on parody just how poorly this was done.

[noumen0nn]

Well, I'm not happy. The change is very very subtle, and if this is what I had gotten with the first update originally, I wouldn't have been unhappy. But that's not what happened. What happened is I got to get used to something I liked very very much, and then had that positive change taken away. It's extremely subtle, I'll get used to it, but I will not forgive the people screeching about eyelashes for the fact that it happened.

Take care, I'm out. Hope you guys got what you wanted.

We didn't, but thanks for showing your true colors on the way out