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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    She like appeared briefly twice or so in the trailer and at least once she wasn't focused on.
    Get over yourselves.
    From the PAX Australia interview linked earlier in the thread:
    The other factor was Wuk Lamat. She’s a very complex character, and she even has a bit of a complex about herself. Unfortunately, we didn’t delve very far into the background of why she had those feelings, so it appeared as if she left a negative impression. We accept that feedback. I feel a little sorry that we weren’t able to properly depict her. We may have been able to make her more straightforward, so we’re pushing her in the forefront as this character. But again, we’re going to be reflecting that learning into [content patch 7.1] and onward, we’re hoping that we can show more of what makes Wuk Lamat so great, and I’m hoping that we can regain from there.
    https://checkpointgaming.net/feature...-of-dawntrail/

    Since she was almost completely absent from DT's marketing, her importance being downplayed in the patch trailer(s) wouldn't surprise me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post

    Since she was almost completely absent from DT's marketing, her importance being downplayed in the patch trailer(s) wouldn't surprise me at all.
    I'm sure if they had an honest trailer featuring 90% Wuk, instead of misleading us with footage of our WoL and the Scions, a lot less people would have bought this.

    If this was a standalone game and had nothing to do with my MMO character it would have been an easy skip.
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    I can stomach all the Wul Lamat they can throw at me as long as they somehow salvage Sphene's character one way or another.
    There is something really unpalatable with how 7.0 part of her story ended.
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    I hate Wuk Lamat, but I am not really that surprised that Wuk is appearing in 7.1. If I recall, the voice lines are recorded about 6-9+ months in advance when it comes to FF14 specifically, so at the bare minimum they probably already have the voice lines up to 7.2 recorded unless they are just doing them all as close-ish to release as possible for whatever reason. Based on that, it wouldn't really be that surprising if even patch 7.3 also has some voice lines already recorded as well for it.

    If ANY pivots do happen, then logically we shouldn't really see any of these changes until about 7.3 at the absolute earliest, if the stuff about voice lines being recorded well in advance is true. Also Yoshi-P did say that Dawntrail's story will "end" with patch 7.3. So as much as many people might dislike it, myself included: Wuk Lamat will mostly be front and center until then. The only way this really changes is if 7.2 and 7.3+ are getting/got completely overhauled from the team's original plan due to all the negative feedback they got from launch about the quality of Dawntrail's story/characters. But it is safe to at least ASSUME that Wuk Lamat will be there for patches 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3 unless, once again, 7.2 and/or 7.3 get/got overhauled.

    After 7.3 though, who knows. Only time will tell.
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    Dawntrail did you dirty girl, it did you dirty.

  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I figured, but considering the writing for a patch MSQ is like a total of 1 hour of content, and they now take 4 to 5 months per patch, I hoped they could have course corrected just a tad.
    Rewriting wouldnt be the hard part its... literally everything else; approval from several leads to hault current development to adjust for changes, voice work, animation, battle development, then localization for each language, and approval from xbox, ps, and steam to roll out updates... Folks really dont understand how this all works...
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  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Rewriting wouldnt be the hard part its... literally everything else; approval from several leads to hault current development to adjust for changes, voice work, animation, battle development, then localization for each language, and approval from xbox, ps, and steam to roll out updates... Folks really dont understand how this all works...
    I'm not sure how they would have to stop development for battle content unless the 1 second clip we got of Wuk is here inserting herself into another fight and taking over like she already did once.

    Animations? We barely have them in this game. I don't think they have facial scans or anything and XIV's animations are overall pretty basic. A lot of scenes are people just looking at each other or using generic emotes.

    Voicework? More than half of the game isn't voiced and maybe we get a couple minutes top for a patch.

    Localization for a short script also shouldn't take that long.

    They have more than enough time in 5 months to adjust.
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I'm not sure how they would have to stop development for battle content unless the 1 second clip we got of Wuk is here inserting herself into another fight and taking over like she already did once.

    Animations? We barely have them in this game. I don't think they have facial scans or anything and XIV's animations are overall pretty basic. A lot of scenes are people just looking at each other or using generic emotes.

    Voicework? More than half of the game isn't voiced and maybe we get a couple minutes top for a patch.

    Localization for a short script also shouldn't take that long.

    They have more than enough time in 5 months to adjust.
    Yep, folks really dont know hiw the development process work, especially the annoyingly methodical process Japanese companies do things, heh. Believe what you will but it's a lot of work and passes through a lot of hands, something like would take a year or so and set them back. Nope, not going to see any realistic changes to the story till near the end and in all likelihood itll just be to cut and lingering threads so there isnt any need to return to this story or its characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    She like appeared briefly twice or so in the trailer and at least once she wasn't focused on.
    Get over yourselves.
    I'm kinda of this opinion as well because I actually do think they listened to feedback here. The entire trailer is focused on other characters, her appearance is deliberately minimized with zero voice acting. Some people complain no matter what.

    That said, I think we all know she's provably going to be in the MSQ to some degree. But I don't think it's time for outrage yet. Maybe they edited her down. We just don't know.
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    I doubt she was edited down. Most likely 7.1 was mostly done before the feedback could be acted on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I'm kinda of this opinion as well because I actually do think they listened to feedback here. The entire trailer is focused on other characters, her appearance is deliberately minimized with zero voice acting. Some people complain no matter what.

    That said, I think we all know she's provably going to be in the MSQ to some degree. But I don't think it's time for outrage yet. Maybe they edited her down. We just don't know.
    Given that DT's marketing focused on Krile, Erenville, the WoL, and even G'raha, I'm extremely hesitant to trust the trailer to be representative of the final product.
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