Quote Originally Posted by Fatch38 View Post
in what it would have excluded ultimates raiders ? so to you it's ok to cater to like 5% of ppl that'll try ultimate ?

and sphene ex weapon is dead on arrival because they'll lift normal raid weekly drop + reduce token needed for tome weapon
Would the people doing day 1 FRU prog even care about Cloud? Chaotic doesn't sound particularly prestigious and I don't even know if the rewards were discussed, but I can't imagine it being better than the BiS sets they almost certainly have.