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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    This question can't be answered in one go. This is not simply a "yes, but need *insert color here* parses to do it" or a "nah its impossible" angle. There are many factors that are involved in the question itself:

    1. Gear of the party
    2. Party composition
    3. Dps check of the tier itself

    1 - Gear of the party

    This can range from min ilvl crafted with no pentamelding, all the way to full BiS. The answer will be wildy different just on this alone


    2 - Party Composition

    How many selfish (no buff) jobs are in the party? How well do your jobs normally play into bursts compared to out of bursts? If you have a DRK/GNB/SAM/MCH/BLM/WHM/SAGE 7/8 comp, syncing almost has no effect for instance.


    3 - DPS check of the tier itself

    Your answer will be very different if we were to compare Abyssos savage to this current tier as an example. Square has not fully defined a normal "DPS check" that they do for savages.



    The short answer: It depends
    1. Needs to be reasonably possible with average item level = MinILvL +5 at the very most, maybe +10 actually. We can't all expect to clear.
    I'll accept absolute day zero clear is only for the very best, but you shouldn't have to wait until you've geared up on normal raid gear, and savage gear is out of question unless you get it from the previous raid within that tear (whole party). Nor should you need to be working markets and crafitng with add-ons, or quitting your day job, staying up all night on monster drinks, or selling your miquo alt on the ERP scene, in order to purchase your gear to clear the tear before next patch.

    2 Party composition.
    The main concern for me here is what might be causing what some see as a homogeaonising of the jobs.
    So it hast to be possible with ANY combination that is 2 tanks, 2 mele, 2 range, 1 barrier 1 regen (I'll allow some fussiness on the healer mix, healers get my ultimate respect, so why not ask them to master two jobs while we are at it) Lets say 1 of each job though with fast LB

    3 This needs to work for any every fight in a tier while its before it becomes previous tier.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 10-30-2024 at 12:15 AM.