FFXIV, please stop clothing your men.

[Len_]

I genuinely don't understand why they keep making genderlocked gear after they basically had a mass "un-genderlock" for nearly all of Endwalker, for both mogstation and some obtained in game. I'm sure mogstation sales were a big motivator, but I'm genuinely amazed at how little they've been listening and learning these past few years when it comes to glamour.

Because it's more work. Making each outfit fit on every race both male and female is the workload of making 2 outfits instead of one. So that would be 4 outfits if you are demanding the male version fit on all female characters and vice versa. That's why the gender"lock" as you call it, which it really isn't, is addressed at later times. Because it's not simply a matter of toggling it on or off. They have to actually make it fit to the male models. I imagine the big hangup is male Hrothgar and Roe specifically since they don't use a base Hyur skeleton

[sindriiisgaming]

Because it's more work. Making each outfit fit on every race both male and female is the workload of making 2 outfits instead of one. So that would be 4 outfits if you are demanding the male version fit on all female characters and vice versa. That's why the gender"lock" as you call it, which it really isn't, is addressed at later times. Because it's not simply a matter of toggling it on or off. They have to actually make it fit to the male models. I imagine the big hangup is male Hrothgar and Roe specifically since they don't use a base Hyur skeleton

Simple solution. Design them unisex

[Astronis]

Simple solution. Design them unisex

Terrible solution. Unisex clothes look equally bad on everyone.

[JimCasey_RF6]

Terrible solution. Unisex clothes look equally bad on everyone.

Not true. My wife and her character look good in everything.

[sindriiisgaming]

Also can we pleaseeeeee get more stuff for guys with open chest. I wanna show off those glorious pecks. God knows the muscles are the only redeeming feature of male auras

[programcanaan]

Also can we pleaseeeeee get more stuff for guys with open chest. I wanna show off those glorious pecks. God knows the muscles are the only redeeming feature of male auras

You should but, according to this thread the girls should also be provided an open chest area. We all know that's never going to happen. They're going to taper in the opening and add a very modest bra like they always do. Which is quite the double standard. Most of the time true censorship doesn't even get in the way it's usually the devs deciding make the females version less risque. But many warriors of self expression and exhibitions usually don't have any qualms when that happens...

The female also usually receive very poor fitting on unisex/male crossover outfits. Very frumpy usually not accounting for the smaller waists, smaller shoulders, and reduced bust emphasis resulting in a boxy uni-boob shape. Counterpart development would be appealing if they weren't so lazy. Until then if traditional is the only way to get quality so be it. Also it's not like there aren't alternatives for shorts, skirts, and trousers when they aren't provided in a new set.

This really all started with the blasted mgs bunny suits. Later, Shadowbringers and especially Endwalker went crazy with gender counterpart gear development ("unlocks"). A waste of assets when you have Viera and Hrothgar 5+ bleedin' years without hats.

[sindriiisgaming]

You should but, according to this thread the girls should also be provided an open chest area. We all know that's never going to happen. They're going to taper in the opening and add a very modest bra like they always do. Which is quite the double standard. Most of the time true censorship doesn't even get in the way it's usually the devs deciding make the females version less risque. But many warriors of self expression and exhibitions usually don't have any qualms when that happens...

The female also usually receive very poor fitting on unisex/male crossover outfits. Very frumpy usually not accounting for the smaller waists, smaller shoulders, and reduced bust emphasis resulting in a boxy uni-boob shape. Counterpart development would be appealing if they weren't so lazy. Until then if traditional is the only way to get quality so be it. Also it's not like there aren't alternatives for shorts, skirts, and trousers when they aren't provided in a new set.

This really all started with the blasted mgs bunny suits. Later, Shadowbringers and especially Endwalker went crazy with gender counterpart gear development ("unlocks"). A waste of assets when you have Viera and Hrothgar 5+ bleedin' years without hats.

The lightheavyweight coat literally has open chest on females. If you want braless tops they will never do that. But they have in the past made exposed chest gear for men and woman . Ureaus coat, lone wolf coat.

[sindriiisgaming]

Terrible solution. Unisex clothes look equally bad on everyone.

Unisex clothing Is clothing that's designed once and nothing more. So some clothing would be a skirt, some wouldn't. God. Most raid gear in ff is unisex

[Astronis]

Unisex clothing Is clothing that's designed once and nothing more. So some clothing would be a skirt, some wouldn't. God. Most raid gear in ff is unisex

To be picky about it, it's not usually unisex, virtually all of it is made to flatter a man or a woman more, and the other sex characters just have to deal with it.

The female also usually receive very poor fitting on unisex/male crossover outfits. Very frumpy usually not accounting for the smaller waists, smaller shoulders, and reduced bust emphasis resulting in a boxy uni-boob shape. Counterpart development would be appealing if they weren't so lazy. Until then if traditional is the only way to get quality so be it. Also it's not like there aren't alternatives for shorts, skirts, and trousers when they aren't provided in a new set.

It's equally as obvious when an outfit is tailored for a woman and then they fit it to a male model. Especially a Highlander male model. Unnecessary darts to accommodate nonexistent breasts, frills to emphasize my narrow hips, cloth bunching up and clinging in all the wrong places.

I'll happily live with it though if it means they don't go down the road of ignoring that humans come in two standard models and what looks good on one does not necessarily look good on the other. This is a game that's pretty good about presenting idealized human beauty (lack of butts and chest hair aside), to dress those ideals in clothes that don't flatter would be a crime.

[Supersnow845]

Because it's more work. Making each outfit fit on every race both male and female is the workload of making 2 outfits instead of one. So that would be 4 outfits if you are demanding the male version fit on all female characters and vice versa. That's why the gender"lock" as you call it, which it really isn't, is addressed at later times. Because it's not simply a matter of toggling it on or off. They have to actually make it fit to the male models. I imagine the big hangup is male Hrothgar and Roe specifically since they don't use a base Hyur skeleton

Right they they are already making more work for themselves by making gear be booty shorts on females and baggy pants on males because there is no skeleton on males that would block the ability to have them wear the same booty shorts the females do. If they start with the pants then the reverse is also true, female skeletons don’t block pants. Hrothgar’s unique skeletons are a problem whichever version they start with