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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizi View Post
    Okay, so the pre-order item exclusivity is out of the window. What's next, Square? Are you going to let us buy those meister quality work figurine emotes seperately? What about old PvP ranking sets or mounts? No? Fuck it, let's just allow players to buy weapon glams from UCOB, it's 8+ year old content now anyway.
    Jokes aside, one thing is certain - no more pre-orders.


    Absolutely this.. honestly, at this point just lemme go ahead and purchase a legacy tattoo? why not? right?

    And i see a few comments about how "it's 3 years old-" etc.. That's not the problem.. And honestly if you do not see the issue with having them take something that's supposed to be exclusive to people who put trust into an expansion from pre-ordering.. that's you. I cant help you see the problem with that..
    Even if that were the case.. What about the aetheryte earring? it's older. And even then.. I wouldnt want to see that become a common loot goody-bag on a cash shop.
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    There was a pretty big fuss when they put white raven earrings in the rising, I don’t think it is identical but they’re of the same cloth. I think it would not have required a terrible amount of forethought to call it a dalamud’s master earring and share the model or use another name and a dreadwyrm model or something but maybe there’s back end spaghetti that makes this far easier of an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unixeon View Post
    And i see a few comments about how "it's 3 years old-" etc.. That's not the problem.. And honestly if you do not see the issue with having them take something that's supposed to be exclusive to people who put trust into an expansion from pre-ordering.. that's you. I cant help you see the problem with that..
    Even if that were the case.. What about the aetheryte earring? it's older. And even then.. I wouldnt want to see that become a common loot goody-bag on a cash shop.
    I can see the point about the Legacy tattoo, but not the earrings. If you’re all caught up, but found the game later than others, that earring is essentially a glamour item and a damn nice one at that.

    Its function is essentially worthless if you’re already over 80, and it’s not an “earned” reward, like Savage gear or Ultimate weapons. You could buy the pre-order back then, and you could buy this now. It was a real money item to begin with, so nothing is really different in terms of how it’s acquired. It’s not some sort of “I’ve been here longer” status symbol!

    For the record, I have it, along with the ShB and DT earrings, and I’m glad others will get to have it. I don’t even know what the previous earrings looked like but I’d love to see those too. Along with the other old stuff you can’t get anymore, like the Dalamud minion or the Shiva emote. If you can’t buy the original thing they’re attached to anymore, I do think you should have a way to purchase separately. Definitely make it a little higher priced than a normal minion or emote, but put it out there. They’re still going to sell new statues when they come out, because that’s a hobby for some people. From a business standpoint, they’d make more money offering the in-game rewards separately than counting on a large number of players being willing to fork out hundreds for a statue.
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    Last edited by Khryseis_Astra; 10-18-2024 at 10:27 PM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    I can see the point about the Legacy tattoo, but not the earrings. If you’re all caught up, but found the game later than others, that earring is essentially a glamour item and a damn nice one at that.

    Its function is essentially worthless if you’re already over 80, and it’s not an “earned” reward, like Savage gear or Ultimate weapons. You could buy the pre-order back then, and you could buy this now. It was a real money item to begin with, so nothing is really different in terms of how it’s acquired. It’s not some sort of “I’ve been here longer” status symbol!

    For the record, I have it, along with the ShB and DT earrings, and I’m glad others will get to have it. I don’t even know what the previous earrings looked like but I’d love to see those too.



    That's exactly what it is though. A symbol to show that. And while it's not specifically "earned" like a raid item, it's still very much what it is, and should've remained. "I've been here longer-" but I think looking at it that way isn't really what I mean. Having that item, and nobody else ever being able to get it is part of the pre-ordering and that trust you put into the company. The fact that I still play and use it and have people ask "Wow where'd you get that-" is nice, i won't lie. It's nice having something to show how much you've put into the game, time.. money.. etc. My main issue with it is they didnt even change the passive it gives. the name. anything. It's not special anymore. and it SHOULD be.
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    If there going to start releasing bundles with previously pre-order exclusive items then they should at least start selling minions and other things that were previously exclusive to first runs of physical merchandise like there soundtracks and other items.
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    A little bit of both. They're adding something free to play games and scummy games like that. But it's a good deal, although with fake prices for data with no intrinsic value, but still.

    It's clear this is meant to appeal to everyone who is coming back for their free game time/Halloween event/moogle tome event.

    The greedy corporation wants more money! Insert shocked pikachu meme face.jpeg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unixeon View Post
    That's exactly what it is though. A symbol to show that. And while it's not specifically "earned" like a raid item, it's still very much what it is, and should've remained. "I've been here longer-" but I think looking at it that way isn't really what I mean. Having that item, and nobody else ever being able to get it is part of the pre-ordering and that trust you put into the company. The fact that I still play and use it and have people ask "Wow where'd you get that-" is nice, i won't lie. It's nice having something to show how much you've put into the game, time.. money.. etc. My main issue with it is they didnt even change the passive it gives. the name. anything. It's not special anymore. and it SHOULD be.
    Really? I mean, some are acting as if these earrings are uber-rare and almost unique!

    I sure as hell don't see my Azeyma earring as denoting anything like that! I certainly don't feel as if I'm putting out some sort of 'I support/trust the game' message by wearing it, I don't think anyone has ever noticed that I'm wearing it outside of AR's. I suspect most players Glam over them too. And considering that just about every instance of Aglaia I've played lately involves just about every other player present wearing one (or someone in chat reminding players to equip it) it really doesn't feel particularly "special"!
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 10-18-2024 at 11:11 PM.

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    There was a pretty big fuss when they put white raven earrings in the rising, I don’t think it is identical but they’re of the same cloth. I think it would not have required a terrible amount of forethought to call it a dalamud’s master earring and share the model or use another name and a dreadwyrm model or something but maybe there’s back end spaghetti that makes this far easier of an option.
    I'd consider the raven earrings to be a lot more egregious because they were a reward for beating Rivenroad (Hard) in 1.0, you actually had to earn those.
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  9. #29
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    I absolutely love this grift and the people defending it. You only see this crap in F2P MMOs with high amounts of monetization. You don't see this in WoW. It's not just the value of the items, but the fact that they're goading new players into buying a worthless "starter kit" fully aware that they don't know any better.

    And yes, it's almost entirely worthless:
    Fantasia: Obtained via ARR MSQ
    30% EXP: Meaningless when new players are already overleveled in the MSQ and have the Dynamis boost. MSQ is still the barrier to progress. Dumb fools will believe that having a higher level actually means anything when you still have 500+ cutscenes to click through.
    Aetheryte Tickets: Obtained via ARR MSQ
    Meaningless trinkets: Gateway drug to mogcrap

    And given the lack of content, this game has turned into nothing but a grift operation. It's a scam.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm all for account wide stuff.
    "Account wide" is another noob trap. This game was meant for everything on one character. With DC travel, there is no need for alts anymore. This isn't WoW and we don't need Warbands. Once again, a clever trick.
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 10-18-2024 at 11:49 PM.

  10. #30
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    I'm all for account wide stuff. I don't buy much I have a lot of alts and I resent buying something only one can use. Perhaps this is a sign of things to come maybe with the server upgrades and coding they've been doing for the expansion we might get more of them but I'm not holding my breath.
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