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    Thank you for the response!

    I'm not sure what happened then - I had Endwalker registered and still couldn't go past 60, so it must have changed. I have Dawntrail registered now, so that raises the cap even higher. Now I just have to decide if I want to stick with my overleveled dragoon or level an alt class. I could also stop doing roulettes, that would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentinelBasch View Post
    have to decide if I want to stick with my overleveled dragoon or level an alt class. I could also stop doing roulettes, that would help.
    It's true that if you do anything other than the MSQ, at all, you will probably get overleveled. There is typically a gap of 1-3 levels at the end of ARR and each expansion that requires just a little bit of leveling via other means (such as FATEs and sidequests), but it's usually not that much.

    From Endwalker onwards, they made the MSQ itself enough without sidequests.

    You can do roulettes on other classes (since you can switch to them by changing weapon then saving a gearset). They are mostly intended for secondary classes.

    Alternatively, you can just ignore that you are a higher level because it doesn't matter. The story will "sync you down" to the level of the MSQ for all duties, dungeons and trials. You virtually can't do content higher than the level of the MSQ in most cases due to the MSQ gating new areas and its associated content, so your "real" level is the level of the Main Scenario Quest, in most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    There is typically a gap of 1-3 levels at the end of ARR and each expansion that requires just a little bit of leveling via other means
    I'm pretty sure it's only ARR that has a gap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's only ARR that has a gap.
    They all do up to Endwalker. I went through the expansions only doing MSQ, all sidequests and 6 FATEs per zone and in every expansion there was almost a level gap except Endwalker and Dawntrail where they changed the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's only ARR that has a gap.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They all do up to Endwalker. I went through the expansions only doing MSQ, all sidequests and 6 FATEs per zone and in every expansion there was almost a level gap except Endwalker and Dawntrail where they changed the system.
    It's only ARR. There is no MSQ for Lv47 and Lv48, and it has been this way since ARR Beta. The rest of the expansions have MSQ throughout all levels and it's almost enough to keep two jobs current without doing anything but MSQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's only ARR. There is no MSQ for Lv47 and Lv48, and it has been this way since ARR Beta. The rest of the expansions have MSQ throughout all levels and it's almost enough to keep two jobs current without doing anything but MSQ.
    I can tell you for a fact that even through Endwalker, doing literally nothing but MSQ (and associated duties) on one job will leave you short on exp at a few points.

    I've made it a point the last couple expansions to exclusively limit one job to only "required" exp, and every time, there are just a couple spots that necessitate a few FATEs to roll up to next MSQ level.

    (this is assuming starting each expansion at previous level cap. Can make no claims for starting from scratch)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's only ARR. There is no MSQ for Lv47 and Lv48, and it has been this way since ARR Beta. The rest of the expansions have MSQ throughout all levels and it's almost enough to keep two jobs current without doing anything but MSQ.
    Well, our experiences significantly differ then. Doing just MSQ on just one job is not enough in any expansion except EW and DT for me personally and leaves about a level gap - again, even with sidequests + 6 FATEs per area.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I can tell you for a fact that even through Endwalker, doing literally nothing but MSQ (and associated duties) on one job will leave you short on exp at a few points.
    Regarding that, they intended for just MSQ (without sidequests) to give you enough in Endwalker, but they miscalculated slightly and admitted this. But I included it as an exception on the basis that SE intended it to be enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It's true that if you do anything other than the MSQ, at all, you will probably get overleveled. There is typically a gap of 1-3 levels at the end of ARR and each expansion that requires just a little bit of leveling via other means (such as FATEs and sidequests), but it's usually not that much.

    From Endwalker onwards, they made the MSQ itself enough without sidequests.

    You can do roulettes on other classes (since you can switch to them by changing weapon then saving a gearset). They are mostly intended for secondary classes.

    Alternatively, you can just ignore that you are a higher level because it doesn't matter. The story will "sync you down" to the level of the MSQ for all duties, dungeons and trials. You virtually can't do content higher than the level of the MSQ in most cases due to the MSQ gating new areas and its associated content, so your "real" level is the level of the Main Scenario Quest, in most cases.
    I started 10 days ago as well. At first i did the MSQ only. Till i started doing the additional quests thinking i might be building some rep like they have in wow. So i did quite a few outiside of the MSQ line. I cleared whole shrouds of quests and did a few fates.

    I should have done the blue quests but did nto touch them for some reason.

    When i picked up the MSQ again and started doing that i got to a point were i was 28 and had to get more XP from other sources as i did not have enough to do the next MSQ which requird that i be 30.

    So even though i did tons of outside quests and fates for XP i was still well short of progressing the MSQ at 30.
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