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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    For all inrense purpose Elidibus is zodiark but he states a few times that he is only interested in keeping things in balance. He states early on that he is only opposed to WOL because the pendulem between light and dark is swinging too much towards light.
    He was lying. (Or more correctly they just hadn't figured out the truth yet.) As Themis he was 'the Emissary', supposedly an adjudicating role, but he absolutely wasn't doing that after he became Zodiark; at that point he's incapable of being neutral, and by all appearances doesn't actually try to be. In the present day he cares about balance in two very select ways that absolutely aren't the way he presented:

    1. Controlled opposition; he was manipulating us and later Ardbert's crew so that the Ascians could control both sides of the conflict rather than just the bad guys. Granted, with us he didn't do that fantastically well.
    2. Making sure the world didn't spin completely off its axis while they were off smacking it with apocalypses; he's just consciously aware that they don't want another Thirteenth situation.

    In fact, going by later information (I believe in one of the short stories) he was actually specifically wrong about this one; a concern raised about the Ultima Weapon was that another attempted dark-aspected calamity so soon after the last one might just prolong the effects of that one rather than actually cause a new one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    I will say though that hydealyns back up plan was pure madness. Shove a bunch of frightened people onto a ship where the slightest extreme emotion would result in them transforming into beasts... what would be more stressfull or emotional that fleeing the planet? IMO the moment that shop left Zodiarks influence they all would have turned.
    If the backup plan was perfect, it wouldn't be the backup plan. Given the Loporrits never seemed at risk of turning there's probably some sort of in-built defense there (they had twelve thousand years to plan for this, after all), but really, the main thing to me is 'yeah obviously that plan's not great; if it was, we'd be doing it'.

    Also, Venat's knowledge of what exactly was happening was very limited; she had evidence that other habitable planets exist, she didn't know that they were getting hit by the same thing, so in that context it's totally reasonable to go to one of them in response. In fact, we didn't know planets outside of the Source were getting hit until Godbrand Manderville told us.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 10-07-2024 at 07:37 AM.

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