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    LynxDubh's Avatar
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    Lynx Dubh
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    I’ve gotta ask, how is the PF green river in DT compared to SB for everyone? I mained AST back then, but I don’t recall the healer shortage being this bad back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynxDubh View Post
    I’ve gotta ask, how is the PF green river in DT compared to SB for everyone? I mained AST back then, but I don’t recall the healer shortage being this bad back then.
    I don't fully remember the exact breakdown of 'how many of each role are in PF' from back then, but I do remember the general consensus surrounding healer discussion at the time. That being, there wasn't really the kind of 'healer sucks' vibe we have now, and definitely not to the extent we have it now, instead it was mostly a case of 'hey WHM is kinda lacking compared to AST, I wish they'd do something about that' and 'WHM's Lily system is so nothingburger, you can hide the Job Gauge and still play the class just as effectively, because the system has so little impact on your gameplay'

    So basically, if they had done the SHB Lily rework and that's it, instead of also deciding 'oh also we're going to delete Aero 3, and make Aero 2 last way longer', we'd likely not be in this situation quite as deep as we are now
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynxDubh View Post
    I’ve gotta ask, how is the PF green river in DT compared to SB for everyone? I mained AST back then, but I don’t recall the healer shortage being this bad back then.
    I can't speak for the feedback of non-raiders back then, but if we're talking PF, then we're probably talking about savage raiders.

    The general sentiment among the savage raiders back then was that SCH was a well-designed job which was also a tad bit overpowered, AST was a good, high ceiling job that can fill for either slot, WHM was a bit on the weaker side and could use some buffs along with a lily system rework.

    So we had 2/3 healers that were fun and well-received and 1 healer that was meh and could be better. So knowing SE, instead of taking the more logical step of giving WHM strengths of their own, they instead nuked all 3 healers and forced them into the same box.

    Doesn't take a genius to see why ShB upset so many healers.
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