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    Honestly she doesn't bother me any more than the Mary Sue that ended up being Krile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Honestly she doesn't bother me any more than the Mary Sue that ended up being Krile.
    Mary Sue? More like Mary-where-are-you? They barely got any screentime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    Mary Sue? More like Mary-where-are-you? They barely got any screentime.
    She ended up being the super secret special child of the super important people from the realm we happen to be going to have the super special earing with the data we also just happened to need. Not to mention she has the painter job which they seem determined to make the most powerful of all jobs to ensure it is played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    She ended up being the super secret special child of the super important people from the realm we happen to be going to have the super special earing with the data we also just happened to need. Not to mention she has the painter job which they seem determined to make the most powerful of all jobs to ensure it is played.
    Yeah, and we got that "super special secret reveal" way late into the game where it was barely a footnote before we moved on, and she didn't even get to use her super special earring, she had to give it to the damn mamool ja kid to use (it was such a slap in the face to her cool moment that I actually just laughed out loud in shock when it happened, it was so ridiculous. She can't even use her own McGuffin!) I would not call that a Mary Sue by any stretch, and no matter what character they picked to be the Pictomancer poster child, I doubt that would have changed how the job played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuteBucket View Post
    Yeah, and we got that "super special secret reveal" way late into the game where it was barely a footnote before we moved on, and she didn't even get to use her super special earring, she had to give it to the damn mamool ja kid to use (it was such a slap in the face to her cool moment that I actually just laughed out loud in shock when it happened, it was so ridiculous. She can't even use her own McGuffin!) I would not call that a Mary Sue by any stretch, and no matter what character they picked to be the Pictomancer poster child, I doubt that would have changed how the job played.
    She's a Mary Sue because she has no flaws, no short comings. She's inexplicably good at everything and just so happens to also be closely tied to important events and plot threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    She's a Mary Sue because she has no flaws, no short comings. She's inexplicably good at everything and just so happens to also be closely tied to important events and plot threads.
    I still don't get how you think krile was the mary sue and got "so much attention" or was good at everything when wuk lamat took up 90% of the screentime and any kind of "character developement" your essentially describing wuk lamat as this was the wuk lamat expansion and every other character was a cardboard cutout and all the scions had 10 years of character development thrown out the window and didn't seem to be themselves. All the scions seemed to be there just to be there and offered nothing to the story except to prop up wuk lamat to make her look better. If krile is a mary sue then so is all the other scions considering all the scions come into every scene knowing the answers and knowing everything to get a story arch moving along.
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    Last edited by Nebelheim; 10-06-2024 at 10:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    I still don't get how you think krile was the mary sue
    It's called engagement bait or, how we used to call it back in the day: Trolling.

    Anyone who has two brain cells capable of synapsing and paid attention to Krile, knows that she doesn't fit the Mary Sue label... Unless their definition it's so completely off from what it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Honestly she doesn't bother me any more than the Mary Sue that ended up being Krile.
    How is a character that hardly got any screentime considered a mary sue but wuk lamat who hogged 90% of the screentime not a mary sue. I don't see how krile was the "poster child" of dawntail. Krile was relegated to being seen in the background and when she had a chance to shine wuk lamat stole the spotlight because all the attention needed to be on her.
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    That is when the true Vana'diel of legend will be reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Honestly she doesn't bother me any more than the Mary Sue that ended up being Krile.
    lol, lmao even

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    WUK LAMAT DELENDA EST

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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Honestly she doesn't bother me any more than the Mary Sue that ended up being Krile.
    Sooo true!
    It was so Mary Sue-like of krile to be barely able to keep up with the scions, using her signature moves "passing out" and "frozen in fear" really solidifes her as a Mary Sue!
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    :thinking: