Terrified the devs are going to double down on Wuk Lamat and make her a Scion!

[Astronema]

you all forget about vice president koana?
jarjar has an escape clause to come with us.

[TaleraRistain]

you all forget about vice president koana?
jarjar has an escape clause to come with us.

He's only the Vow of Reason and with their father it was established there also needs to be a Vow of Resolve. I don't think she'd be able to step away from that easily once she agreed to take the position on.

[tsuchii]

She'll get the Aymeric/Lyse/Zero treatment for sure. There's no reason for her (story-wise) to become an adventurer.

[Chiru_Kai]

I find this thread to be... hypocritical.

I recall people saying that Alphinaud and Alisaie were annoying characters as well and they better sod off after Heavensward. Tadah, they're now a mostly beloved and okay part of the team after some more character development. Sure people still dislike them (cuz you can't please everyone ever) but they're still a solid part of the story right now.

To just outright prevent character growth for Wuk Lamat is basically just saying "I don't want them to fix this, I want them to make Wuk Lamat stay with this bad narrative design so I can keep on hating on her".

[Kikoten]

I find this thread to be... hypocritical.

I recall people saying that Alphinaud and Alisaie were annoying characters as well and they better sod off after Heavensward. Tadah, they're now a mostly beloved and okay part of the team after some more character development. Sure people still dislike them (cuz you can't please everyone ever) but they're still a solid part of the story right now.

To just outright prevent character growth for Wuk Lamat is basically just saying "I don't want them to fix this, I want them to make Wuk Lamat stay with this bad narrative design so I can keep on hating on her".

Character development's totally fine, if it's done through good writing. I think Lamat was a victim of bad writing. Would it sound less hypocritical if I said I'd like her to F off until she gets a decent writer?

[Chiru_Kai]

Character development's totally fine, if it's done through good writing. I think Lamat was a victim of bad writing. Would it sound less hypocritical if I said I'd like her to F off until she gets a decent writer?

Bad writers can turn into good ones as well. And good writers can also make some missers in their narrative choices.
I'm hoping with the outcry that has happened in dawntrail, the writer(s) learned from it and will improve. Because yes, I also think the writing was worse than what I was used to. It's whatever though.

It's just a character. Just a story.
If they make Wuk Lamat a scion, it opens the door for more character development. It's not an inherently bad narrative decision, but how well it works is entirely dependent on how well it is written. And you won't know if it's good or not until it happens. So might as well just shrug, let it happen if it does happen, and deal with it. Being all negative upfront is just such a waste of time and mental energy.

[TaleraRistain]

Bad writers can turn into good ones as well. And good writers can also make some missers in their narrative choices.
I'm hoping with the outcry that has happened in dawntrail, the writer(s) learned from it and will improve. Because yes, I also think the writing was worse than what I was used to. It's whatever though.

It's just a character. Just a story.
If they make Wuk Lamat a scion, it opens the door for more character development. It's not an inherently bad narrative decision, but how well it works is entirely dependent on how well it is written. And you won't know if it's good or not until it happens. So might as well just shrug, let it happen if it does happen, and deal with it. Being all negative upfront is just such a waste of time and mental energy.

She's the leader of a country not some random adventurer. She would be turning her back on all her responsibilities to go flitting off across the world. The only character development that leads to is negative. Why would the Scions ever recruit someone who showed they were that unreliable?

[Kikoten]

Bad writers can turn into good ones as well. And good writers can also make some missers in their narrative choices.
I'm hoping with the outcry that has happened in dawntrail, the writer(s) learned from it and will improve. Because yes, I also think the writing was worse than what I was used to. It's whatever though.

It's just a character. Just a story.
If they make Wuk Lamat a scion, it opens the door for more character development. It's not an inherently bad narrative decision, but how well it works is entirely dependent on how well it is written. And you won't know if it's good or not until it happens. So might as well just shrug, let it happen if it does happen, and deal with it. Being all negative upfront is just such a waste of time and mental energy.

I listed a number of reasons she'd never be a Scion. This isn't me hating on Wuk Lamat, this is me looking at it from a logical perspective. The Scions traveled to the far ends of the universe to prevent an extinction level event. Wuk Lamat is scared of giant colibris. Scion material?

EDIT: I love Wuk Lamat to death. I just found her annoying when she didn't stay home.

[Rin_Sato]

I listed a number of reasons she'd never be a Scion. This isn't me hating on Wuk Lamat, this is me looking at it from a logical perspective. The Scions traveled to the far ends of the universe to prevent an extinction level event. Wuk Lamat is scared of giant colibris. Scion material?

EDIT: I love Wuk Lamat to death. I just found her annoying when she didn't stay home.

Wuk also prevented an event like that... Wuk even solos the threat if needed...

[Raven2014]

I find this thread to be... hypocritical.

I recall people saying that Alphinaud and Alisaie were annoying characters as well and they better sod off after Heavensward. Tadah, they're now a mostly beloved and okay part of the team after some more character development. Sure people still dislike them (cuz you can't please everyone ever) but they're still a solid part of the story right now.

This sound more like pulling for straw tbh. First, there is always some people who complain about characters, just like even now there is a few who will defend Wuk Lamak. But what you're doing is to cherry pick a few minority and over-generalize it to pretend it's a common sentiment. The twins - up until now have always been on the positive side of the community because they have always been consistently well written. Yes there are instance when they were annoying, but that's because they're meant to be annoying, unlike WL who consistently annoying even when she's not supposed to.

There is a reason why WL is often compared to Lyse, because they're "comparable". You're like the first person try to draw a conection between WL and the twin, and that's grabbing at straw because of how nonsensical that comparison is.