Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[faiarrow]

Yep, only discussing the character graphics update in the part 2 PLL.

What a joke.

[Cheapshot]

Yep, only discussing the character graphics update in the part 2 PLL.

What a joke.

When will the part 2 be? Im so anxious. I can’t help but be pessimistic because of how they’ve responded to feedback so far. I want to keep loving this game so badly. I wan’t to make art and cosplay. I want to collect merch. I wan’t to nerd out about it. But all my enthusiasm has been gone since the benchmark. My sub time finally runs out on the 3rd and I’m probably not going to renew until I see firmer evidence that things are back on track. No more cut corners, rushed assets, or split attentions. This is a subscription based game and the work done on it should reach a higher standard than it has recently. SE can’t keep taking this game and it’s players for granted, expecting it to just churn money for other things without giving it the time, budget and staff it needs to maintain its prestige. They can’t stay on top with a more than decade old game with that attitude.

[Heavenchild]

That's not okay. What a waste of time. I should have stayed in bed. This liveletter was the worst I personally have ever seen. Not to forget that they announced just extreme content to do, and nothing for their majority of the playerbase. Crazy, really crazy.

[faiarrow]

When will the part 2 be? Im so anxious. I can’t help but be pessimistic because of how they’ve responded to feedback so far. I want to keep loving this game so badly. I wan’t to make art and cosplay. I want to collect merch. I wan’t to nerd out about it. But all my enthusiasm has been gone since the benchmark. My sub time finally runs out on the 3rd and I’m probably not going to renew until I see firmer evidence that things are back on track. No more cut corners, rushed assets, or split attentions. This is a subscription based game and the work done on it should reach a higher standard than it has recently. SE can’t keep taking this game and it’s players for granted, expecting it to just churn money for other things without giving it the time, budget and staff it needs to maintain its prestige. They can’t stay on top with a more than decade old game with that attitude.

Part 2 PLL will either be end of October or start of November. Usually 2 weeks out from patch launching.

And honestly: same to everything you've just said. I already had to swallow the next-to-no-lore bullet playing hellsguard for a decade now Sko's entire being and race are just gone. She's fundamentally gone and dead and I don't ever see her coming back because they won't listen to players. I'm too depressed to even elaborate more I'm just so tired

[Argantaelle]

I see, smiles still leave much to be desired.



To be fair, the smile on another screenshot looked more natural.

P.S. I didn't expect SE to mention anything about characters's faces, so I just looked through the written recap of the live letter.

[Iscah]

Yep, only discussing the character graphics update in the part 2 PLL.

What a joke.

That's not okay. What a waste of time. I should have stayed in bed. This liveletter was the worst I personally have ever seen. Not to forget that they announced just extreme content to do, and nothing for their majority of the playerbase. Crazy, really crazy.

There was absolutely no reason to expect detailed talking about character graphics when doing the live letter as a presentation on stage at a major convention. As much as I want to hear their plans, this was never going to be the time to talk about it.

As for berating them for "nothing but extreme content", it's simply not true. There's the Pelupelu quests, new custom deliveries, standard alliance raid, role quest finales, housing updates, mahjong, PVP changes, Hildibrand quests, duty support updates, even Hall of the Novice updates and of course the MSQ and dungeon.

It's hard enough to get listened to when we're complaining about things that provably exist, and the absence of non-extreme content from the LL is not one of those things.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Elezen have always been my favorite race, with Lalafell a close second. I think they still are, but idk. I've become increasingly tempted to use that fantasia I've been holding onto since ARR's finale. Even made a "Lil Avril" to try it out.

They also changed the inside of Lala ears, but I thought those actually looked better, so that was the least of my concerns. You should try it… one of us! lol

I think my ideal character would’ve been a half elf like Hilda, but I couldn’t have that, so I went Lala on my main and loved it!

[faiarrow]

There was absolutely no reason to expect detailed talking about character graphics when doing the live letter as a presentation on stage at a major convention. As much as I want to hear their plans, this was never going to be the time to talk about it.

Thanks.

None of us were expecting it, it was at TGS I knew it was just going to be a quick PR shill, but I guess I should shelve any hope for more than a footnote at the end of the PLL huh after fighting against these graphic changes since October last year.

Read the room lmfao.

[Doopliss]

Please don't argue with each other when we're lookin' for the same thing here...

I can understand where Iscah is coming from, like, fundamentally, but I think people should be allowed to be emotional. The company doesn't need defending, and CBU3 should be smart enough to discern what is legitimate for criticism and what is somebody just venting.

I hope people can try to view 7.1 optimistically instead... This is technically the longest amount of time they've had the chance to actually adjust things, versus the rush before an entire expansion release. I really can't blame anyone for holding a pessimistic view, though... Since this is a graphics update, this is all so unprecedented.

[Iscah]

Thanks.

None of us were expecting it, it was at TGS I knew it was just going to be a quick PR shill, but I guess I should shelve any hope for more than a footnote at the end of the PLL huh after fighting against these graphic changes since October last year.

Read the room lmfao.

I did read the room – it clearly wasn't the time for Yoshida to be giving that sort of talk. It was a whirlwind presentation of positive things presented with a chance of drawing a wider audience into the game or luring back ex-players; saying "our character designs are kind of wonky and we need to fix them" is going to put people off.

I've also been fighting against these changes from day 1 and I've posted a great deal in both this thread and its predecessors. Of course I want to get more tangible updates sooner, but this was not the time.

If we're really getting no previews until the second live letter then that's disappointing, but if we were going to get anything sooner then I would expect it to be through some other channel, not this particular live letter.