DT treasure map rates set too low, cant recruit runners.

[TemporalFruitsAndVeggies]

We only got like 5 portals out of 40 maps in our most recent run, one of my FC members counted. Now they can't be bothered to do anymore since it's just kind of a waste of our time. As you said even when we got into the treasure room we got kicked out in room 2. We've seen the finale of the dungeon exactly once since the maps came out. It's a real bummer. I don't expect hand outs but give me more portals, please, it hurts!

Some people might disagree, but I think maps should essentially be handouts. This game desperately, desperately needs rewarding content that isn't sitting in town queuing for stuff. Make every map give a portal, and make every portal dungeon go at least to room three for free. Get people out into the world doing stuff, please.

[Loggos]

I agree, the actual zones have no exploration value at all outside of the msq and treasure hunts could be a good vehicle to actually have some meaningful gameplay interactions with the environment. I feel more "connected" to the world when I'm gathering than when I play the main post-MSQ content.

Perhaps the treasure hunt itself could be a bit more engaging and longer (in a fun way, not in a "this is a tedious chore" way) but you'd be guaranteed a portal and a certain number of rooms like suggested above.

[Eyrilona]

And by the time you clear a dungeon, you could also get the other kind of supposed cluster streak you are trying to get or avoid. Or if you are in a supposed bad streak, the next try could also be bad, or suddenly switching to the begining of a good one. Stop trying to find logical explanations to what is only good or bad luck, and just spam more maps XD

From the tone I have the odd feeling that you meant to dismiss my comment, but then what you said actually backs me up, so.. yay? xD

[Infindox]

I think the issue is the rewards in the map.
Currently the glamour mat in there is extremely cheap on the market board. Most other drops aren't very expensive either, and while the mount is really nice, that's really the only big ticket item currently.
I have the 20 wins for the new map already, but I got lucky week one because everyone was running them. Now I barely see any PFs. I know they will add more rewards in later patches, but I really enjoy maps and I would like to see more reasons to run them. Heck, add rewards in old maps.

[Erin1491]

This is very interesting because it doesn't seem to be just treasure maps. My wife and I have both been leveling our trusts slowly since expac launch and neither of us have seen a single minion drop. Cards are also dropping very slowly for both of us. In previous expansions you'd get through the occasional round of leveling them through a specific dungeon without a minion but it's never been this bad. Maybe we just have bad luck or maybe the loot rates in DT are just this abyssmal. Can others please weigh in on dungeon loot? I'm very curious.

[Jeeqbit]

This game desperately, desperately needs rewarding content that isn't sitting in town queuing for stuff. Make every map give a portal, and make every portal dungeon go at least to room three for free. Get people out into the world doing stuff, please.

All I can say, is when spawning S ranks over the last 6 years (which involve traveling to different areas of the map in many cases), I frequently see map parties around the map. It's a popular social content, especially for FCs, despite the RNG.

There could be less RNG but some may be good because of how the RNG sparks conversation, which helps with making it a social content. If you compare this to a dungeon with no RNG, since there isn't any RNG everyone just goes through it confidently, not even bothering to talk.

[Rabblerabble]

I think the issue is the rewards in the map.
Currently the glamour mat in there is extremely cheap on the market board. Most other drops aren't very expensive either, and while the mount is really nice, that's really the only big ticket item currently.
I have the 20 wins for the new map already, but I got lucky week one because everyone was running them. Now I barely see any PFs. I know they will add more rewards in later patches, but I really enjoy maps and I would like to see more reasons to run them. Heck, add rewards in old maps.

heck yeah, add portals to the ARR maps too!

[Khryseis_Astra]

This is very interesting because it doesn't seem to be just treasure maps. My wife and I have both been leveling our trusts slowly since expac launch and neither of us have seen a single minion drop. Cards are also dropping very slowly for both of us. In previous expansions you'd get through the occasional round of leveling them through a specific dungeon without a minion but it's never been this bad. Maybe we just have bad luck or maybe the loot rates in DT are just this abyssmal. Can others please weigh in on dungeon loot? I'm very curious.

It does seem a lot slower this time around… I usually have all the TT cards from the trials and dungeons before I go around playing the NPCs, but I’m still missing a few. Orc rolls and minions from dungeons seem to be a lot harder to come by, but some of them seem to be cheap on the mb, so someone is getting them!

Maps… I haven’t done many of the 100 maps yet. I still have never seen the silver stage from EW’s Elpis maps, and I’ve probably done hundreds of those! Had to buy the one minion, can’t afford the other one because it’s way too expensive!

[ServerCollaps]

the portal rates etc are just normal, same as any other map.
They could have the mount item always drop in the final room tho, I've only seen it once in multiple clears

[Brynne]

Yeah, the sad part is it's pretty hard to get to the end of a map, and then most of the time you just get rewarded with one of the things that can drop from any of the chests before that. It's rough. I do maps every week with my friends, but it's not been as rewarding as it was in EW, for sure.