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    Quote Originally Posted by BabySneed View Post
    Almost any character other than Wuk would've been better to focus on for the Alexandria part of the MSQ, why they felt the need to force Wuk in the players face so hard in the second half remains beyond me and was probably the single worst decision the writing team made in Dawntrail
    Wuk actually makes sense for the Alexandria part of MSQ if you consider that the intent was probably to pit two different rulers against one another and show how different their approaches/priorities were. Unfortunately, instead of using this as a moment to show Wuk's growth into a becoming a leader that understands that sometimes when you hit a threshold with an opposing force you have to do what needs to be done, she instead remains a weird clinging desperate bestie to Sphene (who does not appear to feel as strongly for her at all) and even right up til the end has her arms extended trying to make unrealistic peace with an entity actively trying to atomize everyone. The WoL has had their fair share of sympathetic enemies, but even they know when you hit a point where civility ends and that enemy needs to get smacked down.



    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Generally, yes, we were rather incognito in Tural, that I understand fully. Still would have been nice if there were people that actually knew at least rumors about the WoL from Eorzea.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Honestly? That's another issue I take with the story. I really don't think the WoL should've been quite as anonymous as they were.
    I mean, it'd be a stretch that anyone would recognize the WoL by sight, but still - there wasn't even so much as a hint that anyone was really aware of what occurred in Eoreza.
    Devil's advocate here, but Tural was overall pretty far removed from many events we had in prior expansions. We weren't aware of anything that happened in Tural, so I'm pretty forgiving that they weren't really aware of what happened in Eorzea. Similarly, if you examine what our role was in a lot of quests, we were really just kind of following around Wuk like some entourage, so only a very small number of people got a chance to see the WoL doing anything specifically outstanding.

    Also, despite some crazy achievements on our side of the world, it's still established that even in Eorzea there are some people that still might not know who we are, by face at least. Like they've heard of the WoL, but it's almost like tall tales that get passed around and they're not exactly passing around our photos when they talk about this mythical hero, so like any game of telephone sometimes details get blurred.


    Quote Originally Posted by Palladiamors View Post
    And in that same vein, we have become death, destroyer of worlds, having fought the strongest goes in the universe, and said retiree fought us to a standstill.
    Eh, I definitely got the vibe that the WoL was not fighting 100% against Galool Ja ja and it was more of a sparring match to evaluate him. I thought there was even a dialogue option that I picked that essentially said they weren't fighting to injure or something. Felt akin to Goku sparring someone with weighted clothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddes View Post
    Wuk actually makes sense for the Alexandria part of MSQ if you consider that the intent was probably to pit two different rulers against one another and show how different their approaches/priorities were.
    Even in this department it would make more sense to feature Koana and G'raha (both rulers btw) more heavily than Wuk
    Koana's whole shtick is "muh massive technological innovations", by going to Alexandria he can gain a new perspective on how this very advanced technology he seeks might impact the people of Tural for both better and worse, also he is stated to have known Zoraal Ja for longer and better than Wuk, therefore he makes more sense to be the one to confront him
    G'raha was also a ruler of a dying shard and is very knowledgeable about the shards and dimensional travel, how he handled his dying shard contrasts sharply with how Sphene handled hers and thus there is a reasonable conflict to arise between the two
    However Koana was placed in the writers closet never to do anything again and G'raha might as well have been a background NPC with how little they acknowledged his relation to the story, he even got stuck in the second-class characters shed with Krile in the final trial despite being the only one there who could reasonably utilize a "rift in reality". Also both of these characters could've used the screentime more than Wuk who was already the focus of the entirety of the first half but I realize having the focus be on someone other than Wuk is apparently a blasphemous idea to the Dawntrail writers
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