The FF14 community does not understand SE's design choice

[Eyrilona]

Can we stop turning every thread on this forum into "we hate tanks" ? There are already several about that, and they're all the same tired argument rehashed a few dozen ways.

[Alchemii]

Can we stop turning every thread on this forum into "we hate tanks" ? There are already several about that, and they're all the same tired argument rehashed a few dozen ways.

o3o I wasn't hating tanks! I said we should buff WAR even more!

[Supersnow845]

Can we stop turning every thread on this forum into "we hate tanks" ? There are already several about that, and they're all the same tired argument rehashed a few dozen ways.

It’s hard when 3/4 of the balancing problems in casual content can be directly attributed to bad tank balancing. In this thread in particular it’s obviously their “vision” as the OP puts it that tanks should be immortal and the players are getting sick of that, hence it’s perfectly on topic

They hated him because he spoke the truth
Almost every bad design decision in this game can ultimately be traced back to community feedback.
I have stressed before that when players complain about jobs and the devs listen to their complaints, the jobs end up worse for it
see: DRK. Perfectly fine in Stormblood and only needed to cut back a bit on dark arts spam. Gets gutted because people complained

If the devs can’t help but respond to every piece of feedback with a mallet when a chisel is all that’s needed then that speaks of them having a design problem

Using your own example “hey can you please reduce dark arts spam a bit” sure we heard your feedback so we destroyed DRK’s entire job structure and design

That method of design doesn’t fill me with confidence

[Ramiee]

Can we stop turning every thread on this forum into "we hate tanks" ? There are already several about that, and they're all the same tired argument rehashed a few dozen ways.

I dont hate tanks, I hate WARs.

[Palladiamors]

Wait...did no one catch that? Yoshida said they changed Viper based on players saying they couldn't see mechanics, then said they didn't listen to player feedback. Sooo which is it?

[Supersnow845]

Wait...did no one catch that? Yoshida said they changed Viper based on players saying they couldn't see mechanics, then said they didn't listen to player feedback. Sooo which is it?

What on earth does a debuff have to do with not being able to see mechanics

[Alice_Rivers]

What on earth does a debuff have to do with not being able to see mechanics

I guess melee players can only see one thing at a time so tracking a debuff precludes seeing mechanics?

[Ramiee]

I guess melee players can only see one thing at a time so tracking a debuff precludes seeing mechanics?

Its funny because on like Dragoon/Ninja I can reasonably see this being a problem due to the constant double weave and oGCD spam which led to constant effects that could make it hard to track things but on Viper? That job plays itself, the only time you double weaved it gave you a recast with enough time to triple weave.
Outside of like Reawaken Viper has some of the most visual clarity of any Melee in the game with its effects, this is just a made up excuse by the devs who clearly wanted to change Viper prior to launch but didn't have enough time.