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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    To me, it would just be an option for those who want it like we have so many other options in the game. I don't see myself using it. Someone else choosing to use it wouldn't affect me. The OP is not the sole player that has made the suggestion. Other players have made the same suggestion in the past.
    Your tone changed too dramatically.
    I never participated in his original miniature HoH thread, isn't it?
    My comment remains it is out of bound to have such feature in game, same as the request to turn off other's glamour
    In matter of fact, you are the one that dug out his past
    I didn't even realize it is the same person until you did that

    Also, why would I mind about blacklist when it is an option that benefits the community because it is a counter measure not only resolve player vs player abuse and also solve the issue of abusive player intrusively sitting in your house to creep you out
    It benefits the community.
    What does this "feature" benefits other than satisfy an ill intended self proclaimed HoA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Your tone changed too dramatically.
    I never participated in his original miniature HoH thread, isn't it?
    My comment remains it is out of bound to have such feature in game, same as the request to turn off other's glamour
    In matter of fact, you are the one that dug out his past
    I didn't even realize it is the same person until you did that

    Also, why would I mind about blacklist when it is an option that benefits the community because it is a counter measure not only resolve player vs player abuse and also solve the issue of abusive player intrusively sitting in your house to creep you out
    It benefits the community.
    What does this "feature" benefits other than satisfy an ill intended self proclaimed HoA?
    As I mentioned before in this thread, loading times for those players using older computers or PS4.

    My tone is changing because most of the replies keep focusing on the OP instead of on the suggestion itself.

    I also was not the first to make reference to the OP's past history in this thread.

    You say it's a bad suggestion. How are you harmed by a random player choosing to hide outdoor furnishings from their personal view when in a ward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As I mentioned before in this thread, loading times for those players using older computers or PS4.

    My tone is changing because most of the replies keep focusing on the OP instead of on the suggestion itself.

    I also was not the first to make reference to the OP's past history in this thread.

    You say it's a bad suggestion. How are you harmed by a random player choosing to hide outdoor furnishings from their personal view when in a ward?
    Play a singleplayer game if you cant handle other players in an MMORPG.

    You're welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As I mentioned before in this thread, loading times for those players using older computers or PS4.

    My tone is changing because most of the replies keep focusing on the OP instead of on the suggestion itself.
    I also was not the first to make reference to the OP's past history in this thread.
    You say it's a bad suggestion. How are you harmed by a random player choosing to hide outdoor furnishings from their personal view when in a ward?
    This does not explain your sudden change of tone when I repeatedly stating this is a a bad suggestion as this does not benefit community and waste of time and resources.
    There "maybe" same type request when PS4 is still supported, but that is no longer valid any more.
    PS4 is no longer supported and there is no PS4 Dawntrail license

    You do not have a strong case nor meaningful arguments to makes people change the mind beside "it does not impact anyone"
    He should be getting an apartment if he cares about "view", how about that?
    If you stand on Shirogane apartment stable, you have exactly same view
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As I mentioned before in this thread, loading times for those players using older computers or PS4.

    My tone is changing because most of the replies keep focusing on the OP instead of on the suggestion itself.

    I also was not the first to make reference to the OP's past history in this thread.

    You say it's a bad suggestion. How are you harmed by a random player choosing to hide outdoor furnishings from their personal view when in a ward?
    The suggestion to hide all outdoor items could certainly work. The only jank I could see coming from that is items still take up physical space. So you'd hitch on items that wouldn't be rendered client side but still be there server sided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilisidi View Post
    Dawntrail is supported on the PS4 and the Dawntrail license is under a dual PS4|PS5 heading. And it has been announced during live letter that PS4 would be supported throughout Dawntrail's life cycle.

    The PS4 is just a convenient scapegoat. If you hadn't that, there'd be the Xbox S at least. And given the fix for a Steamdeck exclusive issue earlier this year, the devs also appear to take that console into account to a certain degree.
    The PS4 is not the only player client that struggles with loading times. PC players can also struggle depending on the age of their hardware. An older graphics card that still meets minimum system requires can still struggle.

    Another factor is internet connection speed. Not everyone lives in an area that has access to fast speeds or can afford them if it is available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    The suggestion to hide all outdoor items could certainly work. The only jank I could see coming from that is items still take up physical space. So you'd hitch on items that wouldn't be rendered client side but still be there server sided.
    That's always a possibility yet we've seen other situations where collision seems to be controlled client side. We had several examples of that in Stormblood such as the magitek barrier splitting Yanxia during the level 64 MSQ. Someone with a passenger mount that had progressed farther through the MSQ can fly through the barrier with a passenger that hasn't. That same passenger on their own won't be able to pass through the barrier even if they've already unlocked flying.

    Many of the outdoor furnishings have no collision or limited collision so there's less chance that someone would "hitch" on an item they can't see (depending on how someone has decorated) even if furnishing collision is controlled server side.


    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Hiding other people's decorations, be they glam or housing, is a step over the line for me. I think the suggestion is bad, yes. I should also point out that OP was the first to drudge up the drama of the previous thread, as their very first sentence is calling out the <MEAT> FC as petty for leaving their towers up, rather than an innocent pitch for a QOL suggestion.

    Why are you content to gloss over that, but find yourself so incensed by others for referencing the same in response?
    Again, why is it a step over the line for you? You're not going to know who can or can't see outdoor furnishings unless they specifically tell you.

    I ignore the quote you added because I want to focus on the suggestion and not the motivation for it. There is potential benefit for other players. Should those players be ignored just because there's a dislike for the OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As I mentioned before in this thread, loading times for those players using older computers or PS4.

    My tone is changing because most of the replies keep focusing on the OP instead of on the suggestion itself.

    I also was not the first to make reference to the OP's past history in this thread.

    You say it's a bad suggestion. How are you harmed by a random player choosing to hide outdoor furnishings from their personal view when in a ward?
    Hiding other people's decorations, be they glam or housing, is a step over the line for me. I think the suggestion is bad, yes. I should also point out that OP was the first to drudge up the drama of the previous thread, as their very first sentence is calling out the <MEAT> FC as petty for leaving their towers up, rather than an innocent pitch for a QOL suggestion.

    I will have to say you are quite petty for continuing to keep the lighthouse blocked from view for 10 months now. In hindsight, you can keep it that way if you want. I don't care cause your days of doing so are numbered. What I do care about is Square Enix seeing an opportunity to fix this problem that exists for players like myself.
    Why are you content to gloss over that, but find yourself so incensed by others for referencing the same in response?
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    Last edited by Impia; 09-19-2024 at 10:03 PM.