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    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    I know I am probably opening a whole can of worms here asking this; but what reason could make an individual constantly attack this game with DDoS? Like what issues do they have for them to be persistent for two months? Why pay for it to happen? I know this is shooting theories into the dark, but does anyone know any history of reasons why some individuals go out of their way to do this?
    You are so close to the truth.

    No one has a reason to constantly attack the game with DDoS. It costs millions of dollars and you don't get any benefit either.

    Which means the only one DDoSing so long is Square Enix, because they don't need to spend money, they can just walk to their server room and unplug the cord for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    You are so close to the truth.

    No one has a reason to constantly attack the game with DDoS. It costs millions of dollars and you don't get any benefit either.

    Which means the only one DDoSing so long is Square Enix, because they don't need to spend money, they can just walk to their server room and unplug the cord for a while.

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    I understand you are honed in with the conspiracy with Square, and that's fine. However, that did not answer my question with individuals doing DDoS attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    I understand you are honed in with the conspiracy with Square, and that's fine. However, that did not answer my question with individuals doing DDoS attacks.
    It's not a conspiracy, how else do you explain why the DDoS always happen only when Japan is awake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    It's not a conspiracy, how else do you explain why the DDoS always happen only when Japan is awake?

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    Oo?
    I don't see how it's related...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gember View Post
    ....Like what issues do they have for them to be persistent for two months? Why pay for it to happen? I know this is shooting theories into the dark, but does anyone know any history of reasons why some individuals go out of their way to do this?
    Keeping it in FFXIV terms, and not in general (lots of preprints on arXiv.org on reasons)

    Subs would be running out, so maybe there is some butthurt by someone there who is spanking SE's bottom. However botnets are expensive. So that wouldn't last.

    There may also be an element of a player who... Hmm... how to put this diplomatically... "Saw a large reduction in their gold mining profits" through effective ban, or the player numbers declining, and they would maybe have more resources to throw at SE's network security.

    There might be a stock player who is sending a sly message to the board to pay attention or lose the golden goose.

    Ultimately, people are weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    It's not a conspiracy, how else do you explain why the DDoS always happen only when Japan is awake?

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    You have no proof. So yes it is a theory of yours at this point.

    The time you said in your previous post lines up with near prime time in NA. So you could also argue it's targetting busy times for English players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    You have no proof. So yes it is a theory of yours at this point.

    The time you said in your previous post lines up with near prime time in NA. So you could also argue it's targetting busy times for English players.
    The main problem with her "theory" is that, for a while, the main target of the DDoS was EU DC Chaos.... The prime time in EU is around 2am to 3am in Japan... so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    The main problem with her "theory" is that, for a while, the main target of the DDoS was EU DC Chaos.... The prime time in EU is around 2am to 3am in Japan... so....
    IDK about Europe DDoS, but the NA DDoS is always when JP goes to work 9-12, it suddenly stops when they go to lunch, it's just so obvious. The ones in EU are probably done by WoW though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    The main problem with her "theory" is that, for a while, the main target of the DDoS was EU DC Chaos.... The prime time in EU is around 2am to 3am in Japan... so....
    My b for being unclear. My argument was that prime time in NA (or anywhere really) is a time a DDoS attack would take place since it would impact more people.
    In no way am I agreeing that SE is doing it themselves.

    If you interpreted it that way great! Just wanted to clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    My b for being unclear. My argument was that prime time in NA (or anywhere really) is a time a DDoS attack would take place since it would impact more people.
    In no way am I agreeing that SE is doing it themselves.

    If you interpreted it that way great! Just wanted to clarify.
    It's what iunderstood don't worry, you were clear enough ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by YouMayNot View Post
    IDK about Europe DDoS, but the NA DDoS is always when JP goes to work 9-12, it suddenly stops when they go to lunch, it's just so obvious. The ones in EU are probably done by WoW though.

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    Can i ask you?
    Do you live in a Faraday cage and are you wearing a tin hat?
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