Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[honest_psycho]

If that were true almost all of the problems would evaporate if she weren't there. But you admitted there's a shitload of other problems. So which is it?

I'm so sick and tired of msq-defenders arguing what is by all accounts the worst written, non-sensical, plothole-ridden story in the last decades.
There has been countless threads, reddit-posts, video-essays, which go into every possible detail of what is wrong with Dawntrail.

You people use every form of bad faith arguments, deflections etc.

And now you pretend that you don't know what 'hyperbole' is, otherwise you wouldn't harp on my "Wuk Lamat is 99% of the problem".

The story is 100% garbage and I'm not gonna argue exact percentages with you, what the fuck.

[StormChase]

I'm so sick and tired of msq-defenders arguing what is by all accounts the worst written, non-sensical, plothole-ridden story in the last decades.
There has been countless threads, reddit-posts, video-essays, which go into every possible detail of what is wrong with Dawntrail.

You people use every form of bad faith arguments, deflections etc.

And now you pretend that you don't know what 'hyperbole' is, otherwise you wouldn't harp on my "Wuk Lamat is 99% of the problem".

The story is 100% garbage and I'm not gonna argue exact percentages with you, what the fuck.

I'm not saying there aren't any problems. There definitely are. I'm saying you're looking at the wrong thing as the source of the problems.

And it doesn't matter if you think she's responsible for 99% or 75% or whatever. Either you think she's the main source or you don't. So which is it?

[Rueby]

I'm not saying there aren't. There definitely are. I'm saying you're looking at the wrong thing as the source of the problems.

And it doesn't matter if it's 99% or 75% or whatever. Either you think she's the main source or you don't. So which is it?

I'd rather collect shit with Erenville than spend a second around Wuk Lamat and I actually hate that god damn disgusting trope with burning passion.
Personally I felt like I could finally breathe when I got to Shaaloani. I think Wuk Lamat as a character and the whole rite of succession is total meaningless garbage. I would've rather had a competent guide to actually show me around rather than babysit an actual middleschool goof ball who is 'learning about her people' and all her personality revolves around 'peace, hungry, I'm gonna throw up oh nyooo'.

Everyone is bending over for her even the scions and even the WoL. Sorry, but I don't want to be a decoration in Wuk Lamat's story. It's not even a compelling story. It's a tedious and boring one where she gets to harp about peace and happiness and I get to hold her things for her.

I'm not sure what your end goal here is, are you trying to have a 'gotcha' moment on someone? If Wuk Lamat gets removed from the story the rite of succession goes with her, and if not then we might help Koana who honestly feels alot more 'human' than Wuk Lamat who feels like an exaggerated trope.

[StormChase]

I'd rather collect shit with Erenville than spend a second around Wuk Lamat and I actually hate that god damn disgusting trope with burning passion.
Personally I felt like I could finally breathe when I got to Shaaloani. I think Wuk Lamat as a character and the whole rite of succession is total meaningless garbage. I would've rather had a competent guide to actually show me around rather than babysit an actual middleschool goof ball who is 'learning about her people' and all her personality revolves around 'peace, hungry, I'm gonna throw up oh nyooo'.

Everyone is bending over for her even the scions and even the WoL. Sorry, but I don't want to be a decoration in Wuk Lamat's story. It's not even a compelling story. It's a tedious and boring one where she gets to harp about peace and happiness and I get to hold her things for her.

I'm not sure what your end goal here is, are you trying to have a 'gotcha' moment on someone? If Wuk Lamat gets removed from the story the rite of succession goes with her, and if not then we might help Koana who honestly feels alot more 'human' than Wuk Lamat who feels like an exaggerated trope.

So you would say she forces you to pay attention to her?

[honest_psycho]

I'm not saying there aren't any problems. There definitely are. I'm saying you're looking at the wrong thing as the source of the problems.

And it doesn't matter if you think she's responsible for 99% or 75% or whatever. Either you think she's the main source or you don't. So which is it?

[Bellybell]

I'm not saying there aren't any problems. There definitely are. I'm saying you're looking at the wrong thing as the source of the problems.

And it doesn't matter if you think she's responsible for 99% or 75% or whatever. Either you think she's the main source or you don't. So which is it?

if correcting 1 single shit could potentially make the whole things at least to 'acceptable' level then. YES, that's the frikking main source of problems.

[Eyrilona]

if correcting 1 single shit could potentially make the whole things at least to 'acceptable' level then. YES, that's the frikking main source of problems.

That.. is not what those words mean. Did I really just read almost two entire pages of people arguing over the semantic difference between "the most obvious problem" and "the source of problems" ?!

[lolnotacat]

That.. is not what those words mean. Did I really just read almost two entire pages of people arguing over the semantic difference between "the most obvious problem" and "the source of problems" ?!

60% of arguments on the internet are over semantic squabbles.
30% are just trolling.
10% are arguments over made up statistics.