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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    not gonna lie I am sure we actually are the last ascian alive too
    Ascians are largely defined by their allegiance/enthrallment to Zodiark and their dedication to the Rejoining, so that immediately rules out the WoL. If you want to define it as "person with the (remnant of a) soul of an Ancient awakened to their past lives", that theoretically leaves things open to any and every reincarnation (because Ascians consisted of more than just Convocation members). Claudien, for example, could be eligible in that case.

    And as far as being the "last alive", we know for a fact Gaia's still alive and well too. Whether or not she identifies as Loghrif any longer, the text suggests she still has -- or could regain -- access to the abilities we associate with the Ascians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    And as far as being the "last alive", we know for a fact Gaia's still alive and well too. Whether or not she identifies as Loghrif any longer, the text suggests she still has -- or could regain -- access to the abilities we associate with the Ascians.
    Yeah, there is not a definition of 'Ascian' that could possibly include us and only us as the only one, thanks to Gaia.

    Well, unless your angle is that the WoL's just a knowing red-masker and has been pulling the long con for, let's be honest, at least two expansions too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    Ascians are largely defined by their allegiance/enthrallment to Zodiark and their dedication to the Rejoining, so that immediately rules out the WoL. If you want to define it as "person with the (remnant of a) soul of an Ancient awakened to their past lives", that theoretically leaves things open to any and every reincarnation (because Ascians consisted of more than just Convocation members). Claudien, for example, could be eligible in that case.

    And as far as being the "last alive", we know for a fact Gaia's still alive and well too. Whether or not she identifies as Loghrif any longer, the text suggests she still has -- or could regain -- access to the abilities we associate with the Ascians.
    I always forgot Gaia not gonna lie haha but technically we are in... omg I forgot the name but you know lahabrea son but just early and I used ascian to refer to the people in itself too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    Ascians are largely defined by their allegiance/enthrallment to Zodiark and their dedication to the Rejoining, so that immediately rules out the WoL. If you want to define it as "person with the (remnant of a) soul of an Ancient awakened to their past lives", that theoretically leaves things open to any and every reincarnation (because Ascians consisted of more than just Convocation members). Claudien, for example, could be eligible in that case.

    And as far as being the "last alive", we know for a fact Gaia's still alive and well too. Whether or not she identifies as Loghrif any longer, the text suggests she still has -- or could regain -- access to the abilities we associate with the Ascians.
    Although it wasn't formally established, it was heavily implied that the original Golbez (who 'died' a long time ago) was a Azem shard too. He's currently sealed in Memoria but I guess it's not completely impossible that he could be written out of that situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Although it wasn't formally established, it was heavily implied that the original Golbez (who 'died' a long time ago) was a Azem shard too. He's currently sealed in Memoria but I guess it's not completely impossible that he could be written out of that situation.
    It was not implied, this was collectively decided with absolutely no real evidence because the community went 'yeah it'd be cool'. The actual highest-likelihood candidate for the Azem shard of the Thirteenth is our Reaper Avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    It was not implied, this was collectively decided with absolutely no real evidence because the community went 'yeah it'd be cool'. The actual highest-likelihood candidate for the Azem shard of the Thirteenth is our Reaper Avatar.
    Fair enough - I could've sworn there was something a little more 'official' said on the matter but I stand corrected. Hadn't realised that it was more fanon than fact.
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