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    Inventory space is a big issue for me. unlike other mmo's that are usually One Job per Character. i have to keep a gear set for all 7 Classes not including Accessory sets there's about 100 slots gone. then there's not being able to Sort stuff by type and the delay it takes to manage a retainer is so dame long about 5 seconds tops to transfer on a good day 10 or more on a bad one.

    when you had the Mog House/Job Changer you didn't have to worry about hauling 7 sets of gear around. you changed your job and swapped to appropriate gear on the spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    Inventory space is a big issue for me. unlike other mmo's that are usually One Job per Character. i have to keep a gear set for all 7 Classes not including Accessory sets there's about 100 slots gone. then there's not being able to Sort stuff by type and the delay it takes to manage a retainer is so dame long about 5 seconds tops to transfer on a good day 10 or more on a bad one.

    when you had the Mog House/Job Changer you didn't have to worry about hauling 7 sets of gear around. you changed your job and swapped to appropriate gear on the spot.
    while some of your numbers are exagerated for sure(5-10 seconds? takes more like 2-3)

    the issue at hand isnt inventory space, but peoples failure to feel its their job to manage it

    they feel like the game should vendor stuff for them, the game should know what they want and dont want and do what they want to it without having to actualy do the work to do it themselves

    its not even an issue of time constraints, but pure laziness for the sake of being lazy and blaming it on lack of convenience

    thats why they are asking for add ons to do all that i mentioned above

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    while some of your numbers are exagerated for sure(5-10 seconds? takes more like 2-3)

    the issue at hand isnt inventory space, but peoples failure to feel its their job to manage it

    they feel like the game should vendor stuff for them, the game should know what they want and dont want and do what they want to it without having to actualy do the work to do it themselves

    its not even an issue of time constraints, but pure laziness for the sake of being lazy and blaming it on lack of convenience

    thats why they are asking for add ons to do all that i mentioned above


    don't Assume to know how long it takes ME to sell and manage MY stuff. it takes ME 5 seconds on a good Day to complete one Transaction, also don't assume that i cant/dont want to manage my stuff.

    truth is i have no problem with Managing my gear, I do have a problem with a system thats Working against me. whatever the case may be the current system is in dire need of reform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    don't Assume to know how long it takes ME to sell and manage MY stuff. it takes ME 5 seconds on a good Day to complete one Transaction, also don't assume that i cant/dont want to manage my stuff.

    truth is i have no problem with Managing my gear, I do have a problem with a system thats Working against me. whatever the case may be the current system is in dire need of reform.
    Yes, it can take a long time to exchange an item with vendor (I've seen it take up to 5 seconds, and lag can be horrible some days).
    Yes, it can take a long time to find your gear on your retainers and transfer them over.

    However,

    Still not a valid reason why one can't keep 5 slots empty before going in to a raid. (Unless, maybe, they are that one super adventurer that toggles between 7 jobs and 14 sets of gear and a dozen foods and potions on a single raid. Are you? Because.. because.. only Hildibrand is that super!)

    {Personal Responsibility} {Can I have it?}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asiaine View Post
    Yes, it can take a long time to exchange an item with vendor (I've seen it take up to 5 seconds, and lag can be horrible some days).
    Yes, it can take a long time to find your gear on your retainers and transfer them over.

    However,

    Still not a valid reason why one can't keep 5 slots empty before going in to a raid. (Unless, maybe, they are that one super adventurer that toggles between 7 jobs and 14 sets of gear and a dozen foods and potions on a single raid. Are you? Because.. because.. only Hildibrand is that super!)

    {Personal Responsibility} {Can I have it?}
    Yeah sometimes During LS events i'm asked to switch jobs, maybe we get a pick me up and he only has one lvl 50. its good to be prepared, after all FFXIV is all Rush Rush Rush if your in a pick me up party and you show up without a few needed gear pieces you think there going to wait on you to go get them, hah keep dreaming.

    not once did i ever say i didn't have any room, besides don't fool yourself you going to need more than 5 slots, you need at least 15 slots for crap drops from mobs before you even get to the good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    Yeah sometimes During LS events i'm asked to switch jobs, maybe we get a pick me up and he only has one lvl 50. its good to be prepared, after all FFXIV is all Rush Rush Rush if your in a pick me up party and you show up without a few needed gear pieces you think there going to wait on you to go get them, hah keep dreaming.

    not once did i ever say i didn't have any room, besides don't fool yourself you going to need more than 5 slots, you need at least 15 slots for crap drops from mobs before you even get to the good stuff.
    I'm sorry if the people you go with are not patient enough to wait for you to go get your items off your retainer ; ;. I know if I'm in a party and someone needs 5 minutes to get their equipment, it is never a bother for me! If someone forgets something and I have a spare, I offer it as well (sometimes WHM forgets their Iffy or Moogy weapon so I offer a spare Jade Crook).

    Also, usually with LSs, we seem to know who will go as what ahead of time. And to be honest.. almost always.. isn't it: WAR, or WHM, or BLM? If a BRD, great. (I know, poor MNK/DRG/PLD ; ;...). So typically we have to only worry about 2-4 sets on us.

    That being said, I believe the issue can be solved with:
    Being with nice people who will wait 5 minutes (rather than: LOL! NEWB! NOES GEARZ!! LOLZZ! /KICK!)
    A little foreward planning (Don't show up to a Fire Fight with a Fork?)
    And a bit of dilligent spring cleaning before going into a dungeon where you want to loot stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    they feel like the game should vendor stuff for them, the game should know what they want and dont want and do what they want to it without having to actualy do the work to do it themselves
    This is not the case, as usual you are being unreasonable in your accusations, people want easy and fast ways to drop and sell loots, as has been mentioned above in most mmos you don't pick up every crappy little item you have the choice of what you pick up.

    Most MMO's have right click to sell from your inventory, you can sell 3-4 items a second if your inventory is sorted correctly. (oh and the servers are fast enough)

    Most players (I'll generalise here) want some kind of way to tell how full their inventory is by looking at the main UI, such as the bag UI they are adding in 2.0 in the picture I linked to.

    All the above things I have mentioned in a previous post yet you seem hell-bent on ignore them and trolling the thread.

    its not even an issue of time constraints, but pure laziness for the sake of being lazy and blaming it on lack of convenience

    thats why they are asking for add ons to do all that i mentioned above
    Well as I also mentioned previously the pure nature of addons is to allow you to do things faster and in some cases automate a process to make it less bothersome.

    Call that lazy if you want, but that's kind of stating the obvious.
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