This character could have been main villain for an expansion

[Jojoya]

I don't know where you're finding any depth there.

Golbez was another Wuk Lamat. He just hid his inferiority complex better than Wuk does until after Zero beat him. Then it was constant "I'm not worthy, I was never worthy".

I found him equally annoying. I'd rather have Asahi back for an entire expansion than Golbez.

[Raikai]

How many players do you guys think have 0 knowledge of Final Fantasy IV (or any of the saga in general)? I think they could've replicated the story 1:1 and the majority of the playerbase wouldn't have noticed it (I mean, they kinda did but not really).

More on topic, The Void could have very easily been a new set of maps for a complete expansion. It would need a complete story rewrite tho, recycling Golbez and the 4 fiends as main elements of a whole expansion would have been beyond lazy.

It was a complete waste using it as the 6.x patch series.

I kinda disagree that a whole expansion can take place in the Void. There are stuff out there, indeed, as we have seen... but unless they introduce something totally unknown by 'unreliable narrators' (eg. a whole portion of the 13th that survived somehow in a huge floating continent), I can't see how it would host an entirety of six zones without being too monotone.

I do see great potential for a last zone, though, because it would have a similar effect to Ultima Thule, which was a very successful last zone in my book.

But yeah, I agree that the Golbez + Fiends wouldn't do. That whole storyline - even with Zero - could have been told in a Trials series sidequest, though.

[Espon]

I didn't care too much for Golbez and the post-EW story. It mainly felt like "Here's some more FF4 stuff, isn't that cool?" and then hardly did its own thing with it, unlike previous FF references. Stuff like the Crystal Tower, Doma, Ivalice, and Omega all take their own spin on things where as Golbez's storyline was quite predictable if you've played FF4. Even the FF4 references in EW prior to the patches were much better woven into FF14's narrative.

I preferred a set of Trial sidequests with the four Archfiends, similar to what they did with the FF7 Weapons and FF6 Warring Triad.

[Syln]

I wish we had an expansion length with this villain.. design wise and story wise is way deeper than DT whole story

but we got sphene

NO ! You'll learn about peace/power of understanding, eat your f...ing Taco and you will enjoy it !

[sindriiisgaming]

I wish we had an expansion length with this villain.. design wise and story wise is way deeper than DT whole story

but we got sphene

i think everyone wishes we had shadowbringers in the void. hopefully tis not to late
zero is such a good character, im a girl and even ive got the hots for her. she makes me proud to main reaper. shed have been such a cool paralelle to the exarch, instead of a beacon of hope, zero is unwilling and frankly uninterested in helping the 13th, she's a voidsent by nature and this is something that should never change. the WOL could have found something with her, as both work together to see each others POV and restore her damned world


golbez/durante was never real villain material. and them writing themselves into a whole with him killing the watcher is stupid, as it puts golbez at the center of everything, but perhaps a new villian from the 13 could surface, somebody behind the corruption from the beginning? possibly a fallen shard of azem? would also tie ciela and unukalhai into the story again

[CamuiKushi]

Nah I'm glad they didn't drag out Durante's villain arc any longer than they did. His face turn was telegraphed pretty hard, I can't imagine how they would go pretending he was bad for a whole expansion...

[Musashidon]

I kinda disagree that a whole expansion can take place in the Void. There are stuff out there, indeed, as we have seen... but unless they introduce something totally unknown by 'unreliable narrators' (eg. a whole portion of the 13th that survived somehow in a huge floating continent), I can't see how it would host an entirety of six zones without being too monotone.

well since we are currently making the void less darkness atm with the light from the first that is going to open up our new maps in the void for the next expansion we already saw one whole technical zone that was its own thing and since we also know the void is the direct link to other worlds its not entirely impossible to give us variety that way either, we still have powerful void entities waiting to be used in game from past lore that has been left on the shelf.

[ZXN]

Given how Golbez was presented in the patch quests, there wasn't really enough to him to carry a whole expansion. I played FF4, and just constantly went "Maybe THIS happens now!" only to get...absolutely nothing the entire time so I just stopped caring since it seems the writers didn't care either. Endwalker patch MSQ was just a speedrun of the FF4 villains and then we move on. Even if they tried to do the entirety of FF4 as an expansion, it would probably just have a lot cut out or simplified.

However, the void itself ABSOLUTELY should've been given it's own expansion. Given how much the void as impacted so many different quests, areas, and even content ever since 2.0, to reduce the entirety of such a massive story/lore thing in FF14's world that people have show genuine interest in to just a simple and quick speedrun of FF4's major villains while we help some random edgy lady learn the power of friendship felt kind of insulting. Not only that, we defeat all the villains like it's nothing and then even get the void on the patch to start fixing itself like it's just a regular Tuesday at the office.

Maybe we'll revisit the void some years down the road, but I ain't taking that copium.

[Akonyl]

Golbez was a boring villain who I didn't care about at all. Maybe if I'd played FFIV I would care, but I haven't.

Nah, tbh knowing FF4 made the patch content more boring to me because so much of it's taken from FF4 beats that it wasn't really that surprising/exciting.

[Lyndina]

Sorry but that Story was also quite mehh...plot barely moved inbetween patches.