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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    You could preserve the existing role designations if you felt it was really important. As an example, Arm's Length is shared by Tanks, Melee, and Physical Ranged. You can easily do the same thing with a Phoenix Down action shared across Physical Ranged and Magical Ranged.

    On the role actions front, I think all of the roles could benefit from a system-wide review. Even within Magical Ranged jobs, there's significant variation in terms of how individual jobs consume and generate MP, as well as their approaches to instant casts. That's one of the reasons why a Raise 'spell' likely wouldn't work as a role action, given BLM's MP generation system and access to Triplecast. You'd almost certainly need to find another means to limit its use, be it either a charge system, recasts, or both, which is why I suggested going the Phoenix Down action route. Healers can naturally continue with their existing Raises for more on-demand access.

    You probably could come up with a common set of role actions for Ranged jobs, and find ways to give them more consistent value. Actions that are more specific like Lucid or Swiftcast could be incorporated into individual job toolkits as required, or alternatively, you could find ways to repurpose them with dual functionality.

    The problem with creating 'support' and 'damage' subdivisions is because the primary function of any DPS is to deal damage, and it's difficult to trade-off utility vs. damage. Ideally, you should have relatively balanced DPS numbers across the category, and instead give jobs unique utility actions that don't have a clear comparison point. For example, instead of having a Petolon role action that can only be used outside of combat, could either DNC or BRD have a job specific action to speed up their teammates movements? Could SMN or RDM create a Warp portal between two points in the map for teammates to use? Could BLM share their Leylines for once (I know, I know, but I'm only asking). Balance mainly becomes an issue when one job's action is a clear upgrade of the other.
    Let's forget the balance for a second and understand the fantasy behind the jobs.

    Summoner who can summon phenix
    Redmage a mix between WHM and BLM having raise is part of the identity.

    but what about BRD and DNC?
    BRD a singer who support party providing utility and having raise will not ruin the fantasy
    DNC have raise that is attached with the person that they dance with is so fit to the job identity.

    but imagine if we have samurai raise people, systematically it will work but the game is RPG after all.. it is like forcing BLM to have raid buffs because of balance.

    and again.. raise should be restricted in specific period of time like summoner can raise people while in phenix state.


    it will work but fantasy wise I don't see that fitting
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    Last edited by Tunda; 09-10-2024 at 04:52 AM.